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I have like many others been looking hard at the X1 but the more I look the more convinced I am that it is a bit like the kings new clothes, lots of fuss and hype ("Johnny X", "Panels" it own Blog! etc) but when you actually look at it its just a WM phone and from the videos I have seen not a particularly fast one at that.
I have a P1 Original Sim Free (up for sale soon!) and a Vodafone W960 and I have to say the W960 is one of the best phones I have ever owned (Apart from the creaky back that is!) it does everything I ask of it perfectly if it had a joy stick or pad it and 16Gb it would be just about perfect.
But I hear nothing regards future Symbian devices from
I personally do not get on well with the P1 keyboard so I am more interested in the W960 kind of layout but what is happening is the X1 the end of the line for Symbian (apart from that horrible new Walkman music flipper) and
where are the promised P990 replacements we were assured were comming?
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Posted: 2008-10-02 18:32:37
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Things have changed a lot. Nokia has effectively put an end to UIQ, so if SE ever decides to continue with Symbian, it has to have S60 at its base code.
I don't believe SE is capable of adapting to this new situation as fast as we would like. Having a WM device built under the SE logo by a competitor was not the smartest decision in my opinion. Up to now SE had an advantage (and used it to ask for higher prices) because they had different devices. Now that they are just one of the many devices in the block I fail to see how they can survive.
There is a bumpy road ahead of SE, I hope they can survive and make a good come back to once again give us the exceptional devices we have come to associate with them.
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Posted: 2008-10-03 11:31:29
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Agreed with Makbil, I don't think this a very happy phase for SE particularly in the smartphone segment, and I don't see them ever really regaining the edge here that they once had. UIQ was their baby, but they mishandled it badly in recent years, and Nokia always had the upper hand through their ownership of Symbian anyway. Without UIQ, SE can only be just another Windows Mobile maker (or rebadger at least), or perhaps just another S60 brand, or just another Android provider... they'll have to work extremely hard and move extremely quickly to really differentiate their products against the competition, and I don't get the sense they're in any kind of a state to do that.
The X1, when it comes down to it, is just another HTC-built Windows Mobile device. The SE-inspired touches are certainly there, and it looks like a nice product, but it's just one WM phone in a sea of very similar WM phones at the end of the day.
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Posted: 2008-10-03 12:40:58
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Just look to the new Nokia´s Tube UI, and compare it to UIQ touch preview on uiq.com...and you get even more the impression that SE blew it, and destroyed the better Symbian GUI
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Posted: 2008-10-03 12:54:24
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Hmm that makes depressing reading, whilst I am often critical of
for their appalling build quality and seeming lack of SW testing, my current W960 is one of the best phones I have ever used. It does rather leave those of us who like the Symbian block form phones with a dilema do we hang on in the hope that
will release a follow on device to the P1 and the W960 OR do we see what the X1 offers.
I watched an "unboxing" clip of the X1 and it was running like a dog so much so, that my colleague who is NOT in any way a "phone head" was watching the X1 doing its stuff said and I quote "Ha thats what is wrong with animated menus they run too slowly to be any good" I just hope that it is fixed in the final retail versions (I am not laying out good money on SIM free
devices anymore they are simply not worth it anymore)
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Posted: 2008-10-03 12:58:48
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edited: i confused the names. sorry.
I was reading that nokia "gave up on symbian". Steve BallmerRussell Beattie said that he dropped symbian years ago. So this means that we would be saying good bye soon.
G502 and G705 are not uiq and they were supposed to be smartphones, weren't they?
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Posted: 2008-10-03 13:36:00
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nokia gave up on symbian??? thats bs
and balmer is from m$
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Posted: 2008-10-03 13:45:14
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There is still some unexpected help from Nokia, since they decided not to support Blackberry connect on the new E-series. This leaves SE as the only producer of Symbian phones with Blackberry connect, and a good choice for the former E-series owner (like myself).
Let's see if they can take advantage of this situation !
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Posted: 2008-10-03 13:45:50
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On 2008-10-03 13:45:14, ares wrote:
nokia gave up on symbian??? thats bs
and balmer is from m$
that's what i read. Gotta confirm with the source i got it from.
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Posted: 2008-10-03 13:48:00
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@nitro fan
some xperia x1 prototypes out there still have the older RAM chips. the final retail version has 384 MB RAM. So I think the retail version will be a lot faster
@Ares
I totally agree with you on this. We all know which one is the superior symbian GUI.
@makbil
Actually, SE stopped coming out with unique devices post P990. Am sure there will be those who won't agree but if you look at it, the newer handsets like W960 and P1, though being good handsets, aren't actually something you can call exceptional. The G900/G700 are very good smartphones , but they arrived too late. SE was almost done with UIQ when they were launched.
btw....I've just posted an analysis as to 'what went wrong with UIQ'. I'd appreciate it if you all share your views about the same.
http://seloyalist.blogspot.com/2008/10/uiq-what-went-wrong.html
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