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skblakee Posts: > 500

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After scoring favorable outcomes with the ITC in its patent lawsuits against Apple, which allegedly had Google's backing, Motorola seems to have won big against Cupertino in Germany today.

The court awarded Motorola an injunction against the push email feature in iCloud, so German iOS users will probably be requested to set their email checking in another mode.

Apple has, due to an earlier ruling from November, also pulled its 3G/UMTS products from its German online store last night, such as the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, and the 3G-enabled iPad. Retailers are still selling those, though, and Motorola will probably have a battle before it to ban those products across all channels. "Even if some iPad and iPhone models are currently not available in our online store in Germany, customers should have no problem finding these devices in our stores or from authorized dealers," said an Apple spokesman.

The Apple iPhone 4S, which is Cupertino's bestseller this season, is exempt from the ban, as it features a "world" baseband radio from Qualcomm, and Apple is paying the due royalties to the chip maker, as Qualcomm's CEO Paul Jacobs said yesterday at the quarterly earnings report.

It wasn't that long ago when the Motorola ROKR was launched as the first phone with Apple's iTunes, but the roads traveled by those two since then took them pretty far away.
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Posted: 2012-02-03 14:12:21
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goldenface Posts: > 500

Where and when will it end! Will the ban go Europewide?
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Posted: 2012-02-03 16:12:29
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julias Posts: > 500

I don't think anyone wants to see the iphone banned even the companies that are suing them i.e Samsung, Motorola just a more level playing field.
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Posted: 2012-02-03 18:58:58
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laffen Posts: > 500

On 2012-02-03 16:12:29, goldenface wrote:
Where and when will it end! Will the ban go Europewide?

There is no pan-European patents. The reason why all these patent battles takes place in the court of Manheim, Germany is because a ruling in Germany will have huge impact on European sales. The speed of the rulings is also an important factor why Manheim is chosen.
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Posted: 2012-02-04 00:41:33
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

Why Germany?? Is it cos it's Europe's largest economy??
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Posted: 2012-02-04 17:26:33
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masseur Posts: > 500

Apple overturns Motorola's iPad and iPhone sales bans (BBC article)

Apple has been granted a temporary suspension of a sales ban imposed on some of its products in Germany.

An appeals court lifted the ban after Apple made a new licence payment offer.
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Posted: 2012-02-04 17:59:59
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skblakee Posts: > 500

This is interesting. Apples submits new licensing payment offer yet I read elsewhere where they said that they are not interested in licensing many of their own patents. Interesting
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Posted: 2012-02-04 18:35:15
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ernesthelmer Posts: 71

I think Motorola is done playing around in the courtroom.

This sets a good precedent; I think Apple may be a bit more receptive to deals if this outcome is solidified and more outcomes like this get handed down.
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Posted: 2012-02-15 06:01:31
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skblakee Posts: > 500

I agree and that is why I want to see more wins for Motorola, Google and Samsung. To force Apple to negotiate more and end the constant litigation.
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Posted: 2012-02-15 12:29:48
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