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got mine for a week, first quick observations:
it's really a sexy phone, very stable OS, very complete
clear display, even hurts your eyes if you're woken up by it at night, that bright it is
no shadowing/fading effect, screen updates very quick & smooth
autosetup works great if your network supports it (send a special SMS and you'll' receive a setup SMS back which autoconfigures WAP/GPRS etc
OCR is working really good
gone are the annoying "SOS CALLS ONLY" t68 messages
screensaver can be set quite radical, looks like your phone is switched off but the (IMHO too) tiny green led blinks as an indicator
speaker is loud enough to leave phone on table while talking in quiet place, no need to put it in hands free, otherwise it's so loud the other caller will hear himself echo
logfile that keeps track of all incoming/outgoing calls is much more detailed than the t68, impressive, looks almost like an NT eventlog
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tried it without the keypad, but it's just too unusual for me, and dangerous for the screen I guess, so I put it back and use it as a normal phone.
I noticed the GSM wave signal (cf TV interference due to station polling) is different, lotsa short bursts (like every 20 to 30s) instead of longer ones (but less frequent, like every 4-5 mins) on other phones
it vibrates less violent that eg a t68m, you'll still notice it but to a lesser extent...some nympho women might be disappointed
*bugs
1) camera crash in dark environment, but phone doesn't crash, just camera app won't work anymore (will keep displaying SE logo instead of realtime camera capture)
2) after every power down the zoom settings (= text size) are reset to medium on the speeddial and other screens, annoying!
3) battery was at 50% after 2 days of normal usage, 3hrs later without being used it was switched off and totally empty! Hmmm, could be buggy power indicator
4) some setup menus have a hard time clicking on 'done', it will think you write so it starts putting black dots on the 'done' button!, most other menus are calibrated pixel perfect
5) sync for me worked once everything transferred to both - but then I deleted all agenda entries on the phone 'upto today', and it deleted everything! resyncing with PC didn't help, no matter what sync settings I use, phone agenda remained empty, PC keeps correct planning. Will retry later on...
6) when using 2 SIM cards with same number (like I have another phone in my car and it uses the same number) T68 would fail once and then be 'enabled' if the carphone is the one currently on the network, after this action the network sees the T68 as active phone and so it works ok.
p800 fails first time aswell and asks 'retry?' (unlike the t68, which just does nothing) but the retry doesn't work, it's showing an animation but nothing happens... so cancel the retry, dial again and presto, works
7) camera picture quality rather sucks if viewed afterwards on a PC, needs to be a LOT of light before the pic comes out decent...but at least you get an idea what you were taking a pic of
*wishlist
1) when catalogue-ing your phonebook into directories in the 'unfiled' view, it jumps everytime you have added a number to a specific directory back to the 'all' view instead of the previous 'unfiled' view, quite annoying if you got a ton of numbers to catalogue!
2) for receiving SMS you can't assign individual ringtone, like the t68 couldn't either, but other brands can
3) send SMS to "unsaved numbers" (eg someone who called you but who's not yet stored in telephone book) isn't there. You can only send SMS to phonebook or TRY to write one yourself (I can't succeed doing that, it's the only place where character recognition is almost non-existant!) t68 had this, was easy
4) BIGGEST SUCKER: missing SMS delivery report, REALLY pisses me off since I used this ALOT to check when people are switching on their phone so I can call them immediately! FIX THIS ASAP SE!
5) USB cradle doesn't recharge phone (? the battery icon doesn't animate, the green led just blinks, so I guess it's not charging)
6) a pain in the ass to organize your sim card phonenumber entry number list - T68 does this great, P800 will just propose you in a drop down box what place you want it to be instead of showing the full simcard list. I need this since the fixed phone in my car (Siemens in an BMW M3!) has a quickselect option on the steering wheel which order is sorted based on the sim place number, not the usual alphabetical way)
7) some options are needlessly dug deep inside menus and could be brought up to a quicker access level, perhaps the shortcut options might do this, haven't tried them yet
8 ) post-it alike notes in Outlook aren't sync'ed or stored on the phone somewhere, IT SAID, but there were in the Jotter!
9) you can't open/edit files directly on the phone memory, you need to transfer them first.
ok, now I'm very eager to test MAME on it, I wanna play Amidar, Galaga, Ghosts N Goblins, etc, all those lovely original arcade games, on my P800!
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[ This Message was edited by: dirkies on 2003-03-11 19:24 ]
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Posted: 2003-03-11 20:19:00
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you can plug the charger into the bottom of the cradle
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Posted: 2003-03-11 20:44:00
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why did u even buy it?? u clearly need a laptop!
maybe u should update your firmware to:
Phone: R1D
Bluetooth: R2C
Organiser: R1G05
that may get rid of sum probs like camara crashing in dark places etc.
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Posted: 2003-03-11 22:38:00
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some corrections and new discoveries:
it does indeed charge from the cradle if you plugin the PSU in the cradle, so that's no longer an issue
question tho': will a t68 charger work on a p800?
you can't hang up by flipping in the keyboard, but I understood why, it's actually more convenient, no need to put into handsfree in a quiet room, standard volume loud enough
sometimes if I reply an SMS it will think non-latin characters are there, thus halving SMS character capacity, while there aren't. Have to create new message and then it will have 160ch capacity
for some obscure reason, a totally valid telephonebook entry which is listed as all the rest in my telephone book will NOT show up if I click on the telephonebook icon in the new SMS screen... have tried to edit & recreate it, but just this one it refuses to list for SMS sending! I don't understand this too much!
I noticed the GSM wave signal has changed, since now if I'm in my car and my carphone rings, the p800 will cut off carphone communication within 10s if it is switched on! I have to switch off the p800 or my carphone gets useless. with my t68 I didn't have this.
outlook/calendar sync issue (p800 didn't import anything from pc after delete all on p800) remained until I added some crap before 'today' on the PC side and all of a sudden the p800 imported all pc-side calendar data.
for receiving SMS you can assign individual ringtones, but it's a bit hidden in the menus, so no more issue
you cannot record voice during a call, the voicerecorder switches off while calling, how silly!
from a p800 colleague I heard that IMAP email importing will only import the IMAP headers, but not the messages itself
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Posted: 2003-03-17 19:06:00
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for some obscure reason, a totally valid telephonebook entry which is listed as all the rest in my telephone book will NOT show up if I click on the telephonebook icon in the new SMS screen... have tried to edit & recreate it, but just this one it refuses to list for SMS sending! I don't understand this too much!
It won't let you send messages to 'phone' numbers, only to 'mobile' numbers - so if you've got a contact you want to send a message to, and their number is 'phone home' or 'phone work' you won't be able to. Make it mobile home or mobile work, and you can.
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Posted: 2003-03-17 19:14:00
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thanks Simion, I didn't know that, now it seems to work! Good, since it was my girlfriends numba (I thought my phone didn't want me to send her SMS'es
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on the other hand, another annoying thing is if you create an SMS, but change your mind before even entering anything, it will save an empty SMS. Even MS notepad doesn't ask for saving an empty file...
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Yup, thats true- but as a simple way of avoiding irritation, just ignore it, then once a week or so just go into your drafts folder, drag down the entire lot of blank messages you've made over the week, and delete them in one go - the message selection option, either ticking the boxes or dragging over all of them, is very handy in such situations.
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Posted: 2003-03-17 20:12:00
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for receiving SMS you can't assign individual ringtone, like the t68 couldn't either, but other brands can
Yes. This is the one feature I miss from my previous phone- a Nokia. SE engineers, are you listening? Please have this fixed in time for the 2nd release of the p800!
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Posted: 2003-03-19 02:11:00
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Quote:It won't let you send messages to 'phone' numbers, only to 'mobile' numbers - so if you've got a contact you want to send a message to, and their number is 'phone home' or 'phone work' you won't be able to. Make it mobile home or mobile work, and you can.
thats annoying - my siemens house phone can send and recieve text messages (i live in rep. of ireland).
tribble
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Posted: 2003-03-19 12:00:00
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> question tho': will a t68 charger work on a p800?
definitely yes, I'm running like this.
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