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Talked to them today, they will have 64Mb in stock next Wednesday (for the first time in ages). Most of them will probably go on pre-orders. There is STILL no due date for the 128Mb.
Sony really need to pull their finger out on this one. The main reason I bought the P800 was for MP3 playback during long journeys, and it p****s me off having to listen to the same 4 songs round and round on my 16Mb stick.
To be honest, it's getting to the stage where I would seriously think about buying another Sony/Ericsson phone after this carry on.
I may just get two 64Mb cards and swap them about. We could wait Forever to get the larger ones. The phone has been out in some countries for ages, It's bull***t that they can't support their products with available accessories.
Keith
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Posted: 2003-04-09 19:15:00
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WHy don't you try encoding your MP3s at a lower bitrate so that the file sizes end up smaller?
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Posted: 2003-04-09 19:41:00
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Because I'm a DJ, and all my 4,500 files are coded to 128Kps. It's too much of a p**s about to re-encode the songs I want to listen to.
And, they sound like crap at lower than 128Kps. The quality of the headphones shows a noticeable difference even if taken down to 96Kps
[ This Message was edited by: kradcliffe on 2003-04-09 18:47 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-09 19:44:00
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even 128 sounds rubbish i think. I get stressed out listening to mp3's full stop because they sound so trashy compared to cd master copies. If I have to listen to mp3's it has to be atleast 192 otherwise I get more stress from the lack of quality than enjoyment from the music!
[ This Message was edited by: dazbradbury on 2003-04-09 18:51 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-09 19:50:00
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If you want to get a lower bitrate than 128, then try mono. Of course, it won't sound the same, but it sounds a lot better than 96kbps stereo. Also, you can reencode multiple files at once using dbPowerAmp Music Converter
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/
Very handy and free!
Nick
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Posted: 2003-04-09 20:07:00
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what about the price for those MSD 64MB's?
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Posted: 2003-04-09 20:08:00
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On 2003-04-09 19:50, dazbradbury wrote:
even 128 sounds rubbish i think. I get stressed out listening to mp3's full stop because they sound so trashy compared to cd master copies. If I have to listen to mp3's it has to be atleast 192 otherwise I get more stress from the lack of quality than enjoyment from the music!
I TOTALLY AGREE!!! Anything lower than 192 sounds bad. I can stand to listen to 128kbps mp3s ONLY if it's a song I really really like, and can't find any other bitrate version of it & listening to it from my home stereo system... over headphones... forget it. 128kbps flaws shine like the sun over headphones. At least over my home audio system, I can kinda hide it with a little DSP.
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Posted: 2003-04-09 20:45:00
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You must be sound perfectionists. I find the music fine at 96kbs & not that different to 128kbs. Above that I can't tell the difference!
I can cope with 56kps with wma format music.
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Posted: 2003-04-10 08:59:00
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psikey,
I can hear audio artifacts at 128Kbps. You don't have to be a perfectionist. Still, if it's on a train or on a bus, or on a flight, the background noise is louder than the artifacts.
Anyway, I think this an absolutely wrong tool for DJs to listen to music.
I think that kind of person, with a large audio libary, needs a dedicated 20G device where all their songs are located. Not a phone, even with 128M of memory. The P800 is more like a casual listening unit, that you would use if you find yourself bored somewhere...
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Posted: 2003-04-10 10:15:00
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On 2003-04-09 19:50, dazbradbury wrote:
even 128 sounds rubbish i think. I get stressed out listening to mp3's full stop because they sound so trashy compared to cd master copies. If I have to listen to mp3's it has to be atleast 192 otherwise I get more stress from the lack of quality than enjoyment from the music!
I TOTALLY AGREE!!! Anything lower than 192 sounds bad. I can stand to listen to 128kbps mp3s ONLY if it's a song I really really like, and can't find any other bitrate version of it & listening to it from my home stereo system... over headphones... forget it. 128kbps flaws shine like the sun over headphones. At least over my home audio system, I can kinda hide it with a little DSP.
It is all very subjective, just like the quality of the headphones.
Many are happy with the supplied headphone, many say they are craps.
Do you use the supplied headphone or do you use something else?
[ This Message was edited by: Pc-Mobile on 2003-04-10 09:58 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-10 10:57:00
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