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Is possible to see live tv programs via internet (GPRS-is faster) on P800? Most of them need Windows Media player 7 ,but is possible to use other program instead? I hope that will be created one,will be nice to watch tv on the phone
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Posted: 2003-05-29 17:38:55
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Certainly theoretically possible but it would be very expensive over GPRS and useless over dial-up.
[ This Message was edited by: Yiggy on 2003-05-29 16:44 ]
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Posted: 2003-05-29 17:43:22
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yeah...but is cool
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Posted: 2003-05-29 17:52:47
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At a maximum gprs speed of about 80k, (if it gets 4 download channels - big if), after sound, the picture would be both small, and almost a slide show. Plus the gprs bill would be astronomical. Plus I don't know of any sites that stream anything in mpeg4 anyway.
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I'm beginning to think that 90% of the user fascination over this device is not that it can do anything (play mp3s, videos, take pictures, notes, organise, syncronize, email, browse) well, its merely that it can do it at ALL. Thats a big difference! If you own a ipod, a sony F707, a clie, a clamshell phone with a color screen, a gameboy SP, a blackberry, and a PC connected to broadband, then you will be pissed at how extremely badly the P800 plays music, takes pictures, organises your life, acts as a phone, plays games, emails, and surfs the web respectively. Its very irritating getting thrown back into the dark ages in each of these tech categories, IMO. Especially when you have to ration battery life between them all.
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Posted: 2003-05-29 18:00:59
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VICSplayer.. www.video-coding.com/ or somethin.. I use it to watch the news headlines occasionally.
This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2003-05-29 18:23:11
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If you want something to play games with, get a gameboy. If you want a pure phone, get a T68 or Nokia. If you want an MP3 player, get an iPod. If you want a big-screen handheld computer, get a Clie.
If you want something that does everything (more like the only device that does everything), the P800 is excellent. It is not great in any one catagory, but the best in all... also with the most potential.
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Posted: 2003-05-29 18:35:37
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http://dsl-62-3-115-147.zen.co.uk:80/np/index.jsp?source_url=http://www.videocoding.com/portal/itnnews.vpl&selected_clip=http://www.videocoding.com/portal/itnnews/vics/1pmheadlines.vic
Vics player...
you need them to provide the content, its a custom lo-bandwidth stream, not anything standard.
Their "Todays news" clip is a report on how more british troops are being sent to the middle east in preperation to deal with "the problem of iraq" lol lol
And to the last poster. I do understand the term "compromise". The problem is, most people have already experienced all those devices, and many own them ALREADY.
To get a P800 is to go BACK about six years in all categories except maybe basic phone functions, where you are just going back a couple of years. I totally disagree with the idea of "potential" though, unless its the excitement of your imaginaton, rather than reality. With the CPU, memory, power, and button layout all fixed, the potential of the phone is limited to fixing bugs and playing around with the UI, not improving significantly in any category. Sorry.
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Posted: 2003-05-29 18:42:49
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So.... What do you expect? Do you own a P800?
Regardless of what your saying it's still the most advanced phone
in the market.
Why so negative?
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Posted: 2003-05-29 18:46:10
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yeah I do own one, I've had it for 3 days, with all extras. Perhaps thats why I'm so negative, because frankly its not nearly as good as all the glowing reviews from the phone sites indicated. I just dont have rose tinted glasses on. Since you asked, I'll vent, again:
I wanted it to replace my simple "dark ages" blackberry, and it cannot. Its impossible for a P800 user to deal reliably with an email address that gets more than a few messages a day, especially with gprs charges. Even if you can see the messages, replying to them efficiently is a pain in the ass, especially compared to a blackberry keyboard and scroll wheel.
I wanted to believe that the standby time was more than a day and a half, but it is not, and its even less if you actually USE the screen, or bluetooth, for more than a small session a day. If i'm in coffee shop for an hour, i dont want to be afraid to play with my phone for that time, in case the battery goes flat before i get home! the battery in a blackberry lasts for two weeks! with almost *constant* use!
I wanted to use SSH (putty) but it doesnt work properly yet, and the developer all but admits it. (doesnt work at ALL for me over gprs, actually).
I thought that I could pocket my task list, calendar and contacts easily, but found out it only syncs with the microsoft outlook (buy office xp to get outlook? no thanks!) or lotus organizer (ugh). Even basic palm models came with their own PC apps mirroring the palm apps, and sync'ing between them. No import functions from palm (or anything else, except outlook, lotus) either.
The idea of bluetooth is pretty neat, until you find out what it does to battery life, and how it screwed up my wi-fi connection at home, and how the neato star trek headset has the same battery life issues as the phone (ok in standby, bad if being used).
Flip on, the phone just looks ugly, and at 148grams you can't chuck it around, or drop it, without fearing for its life. Flip off, there are some fatal flaws in the user interface that shows the designers never tried using it that way themselves.
Camera is a toy, to populate your address book with headshots, I bet the mp3 player is not healthy for battery life, plus 64-100mb of space for mp3s is so 1995 anyway. Games, less usable than a gameboy SP, plus they're warez, suck the battery dry in minutes.
What am I left with? honestly? for $1000 (including impractical bluetooth headset and 128mb stick)? a phone with a customizeable color screen that can access the web for 20 minutes a day if you are super careful with your gprs charges (50 bucks a month EXTRA for a miserable 30mb plan here from t-mobile). Hmm.... do you really think this is being "negative"? or just realistic?
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Posted: 2003-05-29 19:08:42
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apples and oranges ^
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Posted: 2003-05-29 19:18:55
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