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chungagoring Posts: > 500

a kind guy has sent me this email:

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You must know about problems on increasing picture size when uploaded to SE Phones (T300, 310, 610) right?

SE Support don't want to tell us the cause of this problem, they just simply said that it was the "file reading system"

Here, I identified the cause of the problem, please read my attachment.

I don;t know if you understand that, that is just my guess...

I also had a poor english there on my attachment.

Okay,

thanks, please reply to me regarding this e mail.


Format PC HP File Name Percent:

JPEG 20KB 27KB 0021.jpg (320/240 Cam) 135% +7k
JPEG 2KB 8KB 0022.jpg (80X60 cam) 400% +6k
JPEG 47KB 55KB 0020.jpg (VGA Communicam) 117% +8K
JPEG 8K 8KB testsmall.jpg (10 X 100% +0K Exception (Don't fill screen)
JPEG 22K 29KB spirit4.jpg (128 X 118) 131% +7K
JPEG 15KB 24KB testjpgmed.jpg 160% +9K
JPEG 24KB 33KB testjpghigh.jpg 138% +9K
JPEG 13KB 22KB testjpglow.jpg 169% +9K
JPEG 3KB 10KB 19.jpg (communicam photo) 333% +7K
JPEG 2KB 2KB jpeg fILe Error on phone 100% +0K Exception (Error File)
JPEG 13KB 22KB test2.jpg 169% +9K
JPEG 24KB 33KB test3.jpg 138% +9K
GIF 3KB 8KB fish.gif 266% +5K
GIF 14KB 30KB xenosaga4.gif (128 X 118) 214% +16K Outlier
GIF 6KB 13KB KOS-MOS 1.gif 216% +7K
GIF 7KB 15KB wp.gif 215% +7K
GIF 7KB 15KB testgif3.gif 214% +8K
GIF 7KB 14KB testgif2.gif 200% +7K
GIF 7KB 14KB testgif1.gif 200% +7K

MIDI 14KB 14KB Grease.mid 100% +0K
THEMES 32KB 32KB Xenosaga2.thm 100% +0K

Important Points:
Non-picture files did not increase in size
Error pictures doesn't increase in size
Very small pictures doesn't increase significantly in size

Conclusion:
Question: Why pictures take more space in the phone than in the PC?
Answer : Many questions asked about the "doubled" memory size for pictures
But the actual problem is, it is not doubled, but added by the size of
the maximum screen size. For example, a size of 101 X 80 picture is
added by another 101 X 80 picture for T300. For a 640 X 480 picture, it
is still added by 101 X 80 (which is the screen size). There should be
an update to this poor caching algorithm in the firmware of the mobile
phone. So, most pictures added around 8 Kilobytes in size, as the size
of the full screen image is around 8 Kilobytes. I don't know how many
bytes will be added in the new model, T610, because it has a larger screen
(128 X 160 ). It may be 9KB (if the screen uses low quality), 14 KB if the
screen is medium quality, and 31 KB if the screen is high quality.
There is a case that somebody uploaded a 9KB picture, and it became 40KB
in the phone. It adds 31KB, so, I assume that the screen uses a high
quality (low compression) for displaying images.
Solution: The phone OS developers has to work better in caching algorithm. The current
algorithm is very poor, it takes unecessarily big amount of disk space.
Just hope there will be a firmware upgrade for this problem.....
Problem has been identified, just work to debug or fix it.
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Posted: 2003-06-06 17:08:43
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drow Posts: 224

very nice! But the size seems to also vary on behalf of the picture encoding. According to your tabel, small jpegs are using alot more space percentagewise than bigger jpegs.

But it's definately the picture assignment algorithms that are very ineffective. It makes me kindda mad that SE would just throw some garbage like dual-memory-clusters at us...





[ This Message was edited by: drow on 2003-06-06 16:43 ]
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Posted: 2003-06-06 17:41:51
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