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Could someone tell me the best/cheapest place to buy the T610 on contract? It is £50 from O2 but the £20 per month contract seems a little high?
Also, will I be able to transfer my number over from my PAYG Vodafone? Furthermore, I've heard buying a phone on contract means I can't use it on any other network or with any of the SIM cards I use when I'm overseas.
Thanks in advance. I've never bought a phone on contract before.
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Posted: 2003-07-07 02:18:05
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In terms of locking - all the UK networks lock PAYG handsets so if you buy it on PAYG it will definately be network locked (although there will be loads of places you cna get it unlocked for £10-£20 so it can be used with any SIM).
As for contract phones, Orange and T-Mobile used to be the only ones who locked contract handsets, but now Vodafone are locking handsets with their Vodafone Live! branding. These Voda Live! handsets also have lots of other horrible customisations which are best avoided. I'm not sure if o2 will be locking their T610s or not (they will be among the first handsets using o's new 'Active' service.
Some places however may well sell you a GSM stock T610 on Vodafone and/or o2 (I believe CarphoneWareHouse being one) which will already be unlocked.
Probably one of the chepaest ways to get a T610 will be for free on Orange from OneStopPhoneShop.com on the OVP O2 business first tariff (13.99/month). After 4 months you could switch to the high speed data tariff at £10/month for even more saving. You will have to get it unlocked to be able to use your Voda SIM but that should cost a maximum of £20 and even then the total cost would be (4x£13.99)+(8x£10)+£20 = £155.96. Mind you it might be just easier to buy it on Orange PAYG (when available) which may cost a little bit more but will save having to remember to change over tariff after 4 months and cancelling contract after 12. Cheapest on PAYG so far seems to be either avrmobiles (£159.99) or cyren-communications (can't remember how much that one is supposed to be as it's not yet on their website but someone posted on here who had spoken to them directly.
Oh and as far as your existing Vodafone number is concerned you would be able to either port the number across to your new network (get your 'PAC' number from Vodafone beforehand) or simply use your Vodafone PAYG SIM in the phone (assuming you have got it unlocked).
HTH.
[ This Message was edited by: simon69c on 2003-07-07 08:19 ]
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Posted: 2003-07-07 09:16:24
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many many thanks.
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Posted: 2003-07-08 03:26:45
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The Orange OVP O2 Business First plan does appear to be the cheapest, although does anyone know what the following means?
"*This is an Orange OVP of an O2 tariff"
Furthermore, if I were to purchase this very deal from
http://www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk how would I get my number ported across from Vodafone. Phone Vodafone up first and ask for my PAC number, and then send an e-mail to onestopphoneshop at the same time as my order to ask to be given my old number with the new phone?
Sorry, If i'm asking stupid questins.
Cheers
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Posted: 2003-07-08 03:58:28
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Ok, just done some reading. OVP = Orange Value Promise.
Just shows how much I know.
Although I still can't find any details on the O2 business first plan. ie, how many minutes of calls and text msgs per month the £13.99 includes. The tariff does not seem to exist on the O2 website.
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Posted: 2003-07-08 05:26:52
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The o2 website has details of the o2 online tariffs - these are not the same as the o2 'standard' tariffs that you find in the o2 shops. Orange only OVP the standard ones. For information on the OVP o2 business first tariff check out
http://www.mobileshop.org/costs/orangevaluepromise.htm but basically it doesn't include any inclusive minutes but the call charges are generally lower. People often get a phone with this tariff simply because it offers a relatively high phone subsidy for a low monthly cost and so is often a good choice for those simply wanting to use their existing SIM in a new phone. HSD tariff is actually a better value tariff but has a much lower subsidy and so it makes sense to get a phone on Business First to benefit from the large subsidy and then switch to HSD after the clawback period (4 months) for lower line rental and more attactive call/SMS charges.
Oh and as for transferring your number, yes - you need to get your PAC from Vodafone first. Usually you have to give the PAC to your new provider at the time of registration but Orange are actually the only provider who allow you to port a number in at any time so it isn't the end of the world if you don't have your PAC when you order your new phone. I'm not sure what OSPS's exact policy on number porting is but usually there is somewhere on the order form you can specify that you are transferring a number and a space for you to enter the PAC. If not though don't worry - you can always transfer it afterwards through Orange by calling their Mobile Number Portability department on 0800 376 2285 and giving them your PAC - normally takes a week before the number will actually get swapped over but during that week the number still works on your old network - actual 'downtime' for the number should only be a matter of minutes. Note once your number has been transferred from Vodafone then that automatically cancels any contract or PAYG balance on the SIM so make sure there isn't much left on it on the day the transfer actually occurs.
HTH
[ This Message was edited by: simon69c on 2003-07-08 08:32 ]
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Posted: 2003-07-08 09:25:57
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