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OK, I read all about ogg and it's supposedly half size files and thought I'd give it a go, so I got the DB Poweramp and requisite codec and converted a bunch of MP3s - they sound shite.
Just to quantify that, I mean essentially, even at the same bitrate (and slightly larger filesize), the ogg file is missing the top frequencies - not that they sound bad, just completely missing.
I tested further, and encoded one MP3 at various bitrates in ogg - chose Tracy Chapman's Fast Cars for the purpose - and even at the highest bitrate, producing a 12.8 Mb file, the quality wasn't quite that of the 128kbps CBR MP3, only 4.6Mb. What's more to get half the filesize I had to go to 64kbps ogg, which sounded like it might do if you'd recently got off an aircraft and hadn't quite equalised the pressure properly.
I guess I must be doing something wrong, as everyone else seems to think ogg's the dogs (so to speak)...
Any ideas?
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Posted: 2003-09-27 01:04:39
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i use
64 Kbps
32Khz
constant bit rate.
this gets the desired file size this has been discussed 512 times please use search.
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Posted: 2003-09-27 01:10:50
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converting mp3 to ogg---> probably bad result (lossy format to lossy format)
ripping cd to ogg directly--->excellent result
use search as vermania suggested
[ This Message was edited by: wollyka on 2003-09-27 00:38 ]
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Posted: 2003-09-27 01:14:00
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MP3 ---> Ogg Not really THAT bad WAV ----> Ogg is more exceptional but nought wrong with mp3 ---> ogg
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Posted: 2003-09-27 01:16:35
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in general it is true (95%) but some mp3 files sound terrible when converted to ogg
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Posted: 2003-09-27 01:19:00
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mp3->ogg, wont sound that bad, but you wont see any advantage of ogg as you need to encode at a higher than normal rate to keep a reasonable quality. if you go straight from cd->ogg you will get much better results and youll be able to easily see why ogg is superior.
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Posted: 2003-09-27 01:34:05
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OK, thanks for the replies.
I tried ripping direct from CD, using DB Poweramp, and made a 5.36Mb OGG @ 160kbps 44khz rip of Madonna's Drowned World - then I did the same rip, using the same software but using the LAME MP3 codec at 112Kbps 44khz VBR and got a 5.29Mb file, which sounds obviously better than the ogg file. I set DB Poweramp to spin up the drive first, and do 'slow accurate ripping' in both cases.
Is it just the case that OGG is the lesser of two evils at low bitrates, or should that one ripped from CD have been as good, if not better than the LAME MP3?
[ This Message was edited by: 4lex on 2003-09-27 00:47 ]
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Posted: 2003-09-27 01:45:06
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On 2003-09-27 01:10:50, Vermania wrote:
i use
64 Kbps
32Khz
constant bit rate.
this gets the desired file size this has been discussed 512 times please use search.
Just switched to CDex as I wasn't happy with the 'stitching' after encoding, even after high bit rates (=>128kbps).
I use 96kbps + 44kHz - oneCD = ca. 30-35MB; quality is very good, tho' I prefer 128kbps, 2 CDS per 128MB MSDuo is *not* acceptable!!
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Posted: 2003-09-27 23:32:54
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Have any of u linked the p800 to your car stereo in any way,? i used the old tape to phono lead and it sounded ok but has anyone tried it through a 'In car stero hands free' or anything else?
It just seems a great way to easily have your own always different selection of tunes in the car without having CDs everywhere.
On the otherhand if u have a mp3 headunit why worry
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Posted: 2003-09-30 19:37:57
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