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Just wondering what you think of these new features that i think will become available for the P800 once the P900 becomes available:
1. User upgradeable phone firmware over the internet via SyncStation
2. P800 firmware enhancements that stem from P900 (as long as P800 hardware supports the feature; eg:
Comunicorder on P800 as camera hardware can record video
No new colour scheme as P800 only has 4096 colours
T9 text input
3. UIQ version 2.1 on P800 (as part of above)
4. Bluetooth enhancements, new profiles, etc (hopefully BIP and FTP)
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what sony ericsson do about this. i knwo there are currently lots of bugs in the P800 still so there will be new firmware coming out as time goes by (just like the T68i). i have discovered some bugs and suggested new features and i know that Sony Ericsson Australia said they will pass the ideas on and that there is a very good chance they will be added to the phone. lets just hope that my above list will happen and maybe some more!!!
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Posted: 2003-10-12 05:14:00
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Why does everyone think there will be a firmware update to bring most of the new functionality of the P900 to the P800?
I know SE did this for the t68i upgrade from the t68m, but that was only because they were providing the features that were promised for the original t68m, but didn't manage to deliver in time for release.
The name P900 (as opposed to P810) suggests a completely new model, not just an upgrade (although we know the two are functionally very similar).
I would be very surprised if SE do provide a 'P900' firmware update for the P800 - it just doesn't make financial sense. Sure, it will keep a lot of existing P800 users happy, but it also means many of them won't bother buying the P900.
As with all hi-tech products, consumers don't expect a free upgrade to the newest device. If they want the newest gear, they have to pay for it.
If SE do eventually provide a 'P900' firmware update for the P800, I would say it is only because they want to merge the P800 and P900 code streams into one and save on code maintenance costs - they would then only have to fix bugs once, not twice.
What do you guys think?
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Posted: 2003-10-12 19:27:46
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Drinker is absolutely correct.
I know it'd be very good of SE to give us P800 users a nice major upgrade (rather than just bugfixes) but also we aren't going to be lucky (I don't feel.. this is personal opinion).
The product is nearly a year old, it's being replaced by a model.. I just can't see SE wanting to be _that_ good to their customers. Sorry to dissapoint those hoping for a P800 & 3/4 firmware. It just isn't good business for SE.
[ This Message was edited by: shorty on 2003-10-12 18:38 ]
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Posted: 2003-10-12 19:37:52
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Just think of the t300 and t310 the hardware is nearly identical it is(according to a thread on esato) possible to flash a t300 to become a t310 but se seam to have said that the t300 will not have the same upgrades as the t310.
This message was posted from a T300
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Posted: 2003-10-12 19:40:27
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Aside from the t68m -> t68i upgrade, has SE provided firmware updates to upgrade other models to a newer model?
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Posted: 2003-10-12 20:51:39
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no way wil se glve free upgrades
This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2003-10-12 21:08:54
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Arfi-Gorgona Posts: > 500
Then why i bother to buy a product from them again?this isnt just a phone its like a small pc and what is so new about this model? apart from the minor changes and the 65k?I dont see a new model here only a p800 with new software and some minor changes.And this is how it suppose to be anyway from the start a year old model with only 12bit colour when almost all the other models have 65k?Thats why i expect a upgrade to make the phone as its supposed to be from the start apart from the 65k witch is hardware and dont change.
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Posted: 2003-10-12 22:43:23
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R380 to r380e, was a major upgrade that was given for free.
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Posted: 2003-10-12 23:09:00
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Arfi, I don't think you are justified in expecting a free upgrade to the P900 firmware.
You compare the phone to a small PC, but even with a PC the upgrade isn't fee - if you want the next version of Windows then you have to pay for it and new versions of PC applications such as Microsoft Word are certainly not free. The P900 has a new operating system with new applications (albeit only minor upgrades). All this software development costs money and SE recoups this by charging for the new model.
Basically, you bought the P800 because it does what you want. If you want the functionality of the P900 then you will need to buy that too. I know it is a pain, but if you want the latest gadget then you have to pay for it.
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Posted: 2003-10-12 23:32:50
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Arfi-Gorgona Posts: > 500
Drinker you are wrong when you buy a pc like phone you expect the phone to last and not die when the next phone appears.And tell me something if sony or any manufacture did this why i bother to buy a smart phone to last only a year ?Where is the support for the smart phone?And even if we pay for the upgrade as you said we pay but only when our free upgrades stop and i mean the 1 year free.I dont like sony or other company to mock me with this so called upgrade they ought to give to us too and just for marketing purposes they dont.Isnt enough the 800EU? And why paying for the features that the p800 ought to have from the start?The phone dont cost them more than 100$ at best they should give us the updates of the software of our phone,this isnt a new os like you said its only updated
and i dont think you paid for your updates from the microsoft do you?
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Posted: 2003-10-12 23:48:29
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