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looks like N***a 7650 to me
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at the time I have T200, but waiting for T630
[ This Message was edited by: Guy89 on 2004-01-05 15:03 ]
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Posted: 2004-01-05 16:03:15
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I've read it earlier but if u wanna do any1 a good,copy/paste the review in here for the wap users
. Most of the ppl know the site and b sure they've read it already.
This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2004-01-05 21:59:26
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Samsung introduced new GSM-phone with slider - D410. The phone it self isn’t new for Samsung’s home market – South Korea, however in Europe it will probably become the first new-generation phone. I wrote «probably» because it’s possible that Samsung will replace this model with a new, upgraded one before the release. While Samsung is still making up their mind, we’d like to review the D410. This phone is interesting not only because of it’s interesting outlook, but because of the technologies inside as well.
Let’s follow our tradition and start our review with the description of the phones outlook. It’s rather big and heavy. I doubt that any woman would like to carry such phone, so it can be called “made for men” for sure. D410 is rather similar to V200, both have the same idea. Rotating camera (180 degrees) and its specifications are similar to the one used in P400. Speaker is located opposite cameras window, it is used for playing ring tones.
The display doesn’t look small comparing to the phone’s size. It’s the first TFT-matrix display from Samsung with the ability to show up to 262000 colors. Soon this will become a standard for top-class models, and once again Samsung is taking over the leader’s crown. Screen’s resolution is 137x220 pixels; this allows displaying up to 8 text lines, header and an extra line for service needs. Picture’s quality is beyond comparison, it’s very contrast and distinct. I will try to give an example of how it looks like. When the first color display phones appeared we all felt delight and joy, even though their quality was far from good. Expanding the number of colors didn’t affect as much, as switching from STN to TFD. The second shock were TFT displays showing up to 65000 colors, we thought that this is the limit, but we were wrong. The horizon expanded once more with the release of D410. The display is so good, that when you look back at E700 – it looks like some cheap 4096 color display in a budget phone. Considering that E700’s display at the moment is one of the best on the market – I think you get the point.
However, I want to make it clear, all that is written above is about Samsung’s 262k display, and not from every manufacturer. My last visit to Siemens headquarters allowed me to view the prototypes of the phones that will be released in 2nd quarter of year 2004. These phones were equipped with similar displays, although I’m talking about the color number, and not the picture quality. My questions and staff’s answers showed that these were commercial samples, and display’s quality will not be changed. The picture is similar to good TFT displays with 65k colors. On the other hand, it’s certainly an evolution comparing to Siemens own products (it’s slightly better than ST55’s one, but ST55 is ODM phone). The conclusion is the following: soon it will be impossible to choose a phone only by the number of colors the display is capable of showing. It will be the brand, that defines display’s quality.
During stand by mode the screen is turned off completely, it doesn’t show any pictures, although it’s possible to choose one. This was made due battery’s capacity and screen’s size/tech specs The battery’s life will significantly reduced if it will be always turned on.
Power LED is located under the screen, it can blink with one of 8 colors. While the phone is closed you can only use the four-positional navigational key with built in button that accesses web-browser. Keys are convenient, and no problems are encountered during the time I was using them.
Two volume control buttons are located on the left, as well as handsfree connector, it’s covered with rubber cork. IrDA is located on the same side, it supports business card’s sending and receiving, in other words – it’s fully functional.
Standard interface connector is located on the phone’s bottom. You will see a hole for the strap on the phone’s back. The battery occupies the whole back side of the phone, it doesn’t have any backlash. Several battery types can be used with this phone; our sample had Li-Ion battery with 950 mAh capacity. Samsung claims that the phone can work up to 180 hours with such battery, however it worked for about 3 hours here in Moscow, with about 25 minutes spent for calls and 45 minutes for other functions (mostly games). If you use it more actively then you’ll most likely have to recharge it once in two days, it takes up to 2.5 hours for the battery to charge.
The phone can be opened with one hand; no special effort should be added. On the other hand, the phone can’t be opened accidentally. It is equipped with the assisted mechanism. So, whenever you begin closing or opening the phone – you won’t have to finish your operation, the phone will close or open by it self. It actually reminds of some child’s game with two magnets. The phone really slides, this creates interesting and pleasant impressions while using it.
Sliders rails are made from plastic, however they’re powered with metal plate on the top, this leaves hopes that the phone will be reliable during its usage.
The keyboard is made of plastic, the keys are pretty big and are located far enough from each other. No problems with pressings were encountered, although people with big fingers might experience some difficulties with the top row, since it’s located rather close to the phone’s upper part. Keyboard’s backlight color is blue, central and right rows are singled out and viewed better than the rest.
You can answer the calls without opening the phone, although it’s possible to bind this function for slider. The keypad gets automatically blocked while you’re closing the phone.
Menu
The menu can be accessed by pressing the left soft-key, shortcut number navigation for easier menu-surfing is supported. The menu can be presented in two ways (page or bar style). The menu can be surfed with the Navigational key, since the main menu is scrolled vertically, just like any other menu, pressing right on the navigational key leads to accessing the required menu item, meanwhile pressing left will exit it. Sub-menu is presented in list-way, it’s convenient. All main menu items are presented as animations, the screen changes the content smoothly. No any peculiarities, however screen’s quality definitely improves the overall satisfaction level from menu browsing.
Phonebook. In order to access the phonebook from stand by mode – press the right soft-key. You will instantly get to a list of items; the first of them is “Name search”. The phone allows displaying SIM-card’s memory and phonebook at once. If you are entering new contact into a phone book you can specify several phone numbers for one entry (mobile, home, work, fax, other), as well as e-mail and internet addresses, and finally – define the Group. 10 groups can be created, you can name them yourself. Ring tone, picture and SMS alert can be customized for every group. 1000 entries can be saved in phone’s memory.
Viewing certain entry is nicely done, you can see all numbers at once and choose the one you need in order to dial it. Eight keys can be associated with certain entries from the phone book.
Messages. This mobile phone supports EMS and joined messages (up to 918 symbols). As a results 22 pictures and 24 animations are pre-installed for being added into SMS message. Phone’s memory can store up to 200 messages, excluding ones stored in the sim-card.
Sub-menu from which you can choose the input language can be accessed while typing a message. An interesting fact is that predictive text input is supported for all languages that can be chosen for the phone’s menu.
MMS. MMS stands out as the separate menu item apart from Messages. Unlike the other new modules, the interface is very simple. You can create several pages, the outgoing message limit is 100kb, meanwhile the limit for incoming messages is 45kb. 700kb of phone’s memory are dedicated to MMS.
E-Mail client. POP3/SMTP protocols are supported, several accounts as well. Besides downloading the headers, the whole message can be downloaded as well. Only graphical files (GIF, JPEG) can be attached. You can attach photos made by the built-in camera when you’re sending an e-mail, the limit is 100kb per message. E-Mail client is not innovative, nor old-fashioned. 1024kb are dedicated to e-mails. Message templates can be created as well.
Call list. Everything is traditional here, 20 entries for each list. Date and time for each entry are specified. Although common time timer is absent, however there are separate timers for incoming and outgoing calls is present.
Sound. The first disappointment comes when you notice the absence of mix alert mode (vibrating + sound), you can choose either vibrating alert, or ring tone instead. One of the unusual settings is custom alert for slider (two tones are available).
Now let’s talk about the sound. Its 64 tone polyphony, however it’s almost impossible to find ring tones like that. But the ones that are pre-installed sound rather nice. Volume is good; D410 is slightly better comparing to 40-tone polyphonic ring tones. Saying that these platforms are different is impossible; they still can be compared. On the other hand, you will need two stereo speakers in order to feel the true 64 tone polyphony. The first model with such feature will be released only in the 3rd quarter of year 2004. Other phone manufacturers will release similar solutions at the same time. Motorola has the patent of this invention, so we might expect something special from this brand as well. We’d like to note that this model has one of the best sound.
Phone Settings. The first item is IrDA, if you activate this item, then you see two more. The first one is activating PC Synchronization, and the second is – Synchronization with another mobile phone. This solution is logical, however not really necessary because this problem can be solved by software part of the phone, without asking the user to make a choice.
Display settings are typical, you can choose the contrast level (really wide range of values), wallpaper (animated wallpapers show what the phone is really capable of), backlight time setting). The phone features a really interesting function – display’s backlight according to the timer (Auto Light), however there aren’t really a lot of people who might find this one useful.
You can see instantly how the text color will look on your current desktop, while choosing it. This hasn’t been done before.
You can also find security settings in this menu, the rest is standard for a typical Mobile Phone.
Organizer. Current month is displayed in the Calendar, you can enter a note (40 symbols limit) for any definite day. Several notes can be set for one day, and you can set custom alert for each of them. The days that have some entries are marked with color during the Calendar view mode, you can also view common list of events. However, the number of appointments for one day is not shown.
To do list. Here you can create entries about your “things-to-do”, priority level can be set (high, low, common), you can also copy entries to the Calendar.
The unit converter is convenient, because you have to enter current exchange rate every time you use it. The whole operation may seem huge, but if you use it from time to time – it’s really convenient.
Date and time. From here you can view the world time in biggest cities and setup current date and time.
Dictaphone. Five voice memos can be stored, the length limit is 30 seconds for each. The phone allows recording conversation, in order to perform this operation you’ll have to enter the menu and launch Dictaphone from it. It’s not very convenient, however this is the only way to activate it.
Alarm Clock. Alarm clock can be set to daily and single time mode; you can also set the Alarm Clock working even if the phone is switched off.
Network Services. Usual settings for network functions, you can also choose the frequency manually (GSM900/1800 or GSM1900).
Funbox. Phone supports Java. 600 kb are dedicated to Java applications, same amount of memory is for Pictures and Melodies. The phone features four pre-installed games: BubbleSmile (really nice games, you have to form rows from bubbles) Fun2Link (interesting logical game), Ultimate Golf (it’s a golf, however the picture is not always clear, this game was most likely optimized for lower resolution), MobileChess (really nice chess games).
Wap-browser is 1.2.1, but it will most likely be updated to 2.0, considering that the phone will be released in February. GPRS class 10 is present.
Camera. This phone has VGA camera, however it wouldn’t be worth mentioning if it wasn’t for rebuild interface. From now on working with the camera is a lot easier, you don’t have to enter the menu, main functions are available right from shooting mode (when the picture is displayed on the screen). You can setup the Contrast level, zoom the picture (8x digital zoom), and change the resolution. Some standard functions are present as well, like timer and frames (a really wide variety to choose from, some of them are pretty nice). This phone supports MutliShot function, with two speed modes (normal and fast). Each series can have 6, 9 or 15 shots.
Camera supports the following resolutions: VGA (640x480), QVGA (320x240), QQVGA (160x120), Mobile (176x120). Four types of file compression are presented (Economy, Normal, Fine, Super Fine). Three megabytes are dedicated to photos; average picture’s size is about 60-70 kb. The camera’s quality doesn’t differ much from the one installed in Samsung E700.
Besides the interface during shooting mode, the interface for photo album was redone as well. For example when you’re browsing the pictures, the one you’ve selected gets slightly zoomed and highlighted. You will notice the second major change during viewing the picture’s details, it’s displayed right on the very same place with the picture it self in the background, which is rather convenient. To cut the long story short, I have to admit that the new interface is certainly done with decently good taste, and it’s fun using it. Photos can be uploaded to PC with the help of software that will probably be shipped with the mobile phone on CD.
The Camera allows recording short video clips (15 seconds, no sound) besides taking pictures. Three megabytes are dedicated for these needs. However I was unable to transfer these clips to PC, because of the lack of necessary software, and it’s impossible to transfer them via IrDA (same goes for photos). Video clip quality is not bad, and since it’s not a vital phone’s feature it looks almost perfect.
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Impressions
No problems with network coverage quality were encountered; it’s typically good for Samsung mobile phones. The main advantages of this phone are: perfect display, loud polyphonic ring tones and new interface for several functions. Together this makes a good Samsung phone; this brand always had strong positions in these features. The phone is really great except for the size; it is cutting down the number of potential consumers due to that. Samsung most likely realized this problem and this model probably won’t be released in Europe. The main reason for that is another model to be released - D4x0 (for example D430). The main differences from D410 will be smaller size (half of 410’s thickness, slightly less height), and built-in antenna. This phone will most likely be released in July-August of year 2004.
As to D410, if it will be launched into serial production, then it will be released in February and cost about 550$. Considering that this is a product of narrow market part, it will not be sold widely. On the other hand, the phone is really nice, especially since it’s the first of a kind in its segment.
Oh fook that's a long review
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at the time I have T200, but waiting for T630
[ This Message was edited by: Guy89 on 2004-01-06 14:55 ]
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Posted: 2004-01-06 15:55:05
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pffff Do I have to read that on wap? cost me hours
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Posted: 2004-01-06 16:11:35
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@Guy89:thanks for that!
@Meeuw: That's cuz u r way back in tech my friend.Most of us use GPRS which mean that reading this thread will cost u probably...6 cents! What do u think, can u affort this damn huge sum?
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Posted: 2004-01-07 07:11:23
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@701
meeuw only said that it woule take him hours to read the review.
that's how i unterstood him.
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Posted: 2004-01-07 17:48:58
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I think the phone looks quite smart, shame about the battery life though.
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Posted: 2004-01-07 18:16:04
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I like it and i`ve heard about it at Cebit in 2001.I`ve been expecting this one, i think its quite nice and ...do u think it`s more expensive than the P900?
What's this?
"..it worked for about 3 hours here in Moscow, with about 25 minutes spent for calls and 45 minutes for other functions (mostly games). If you use it more actively then you’ll most likely have to recharge it once in two days, it takes up to 2.5 hours for the battery to charge." 3 hours?! It means 3 DAYS, right? That`s nowhere as "bad", right?:)
[ This Message was edited by: 701 on 2004-01-09 04:02 ]
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Posted: 2004-01-09 04:48:17
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what the hell is this then???
http://www.directmobilephones.com/samsung_e800main.htm
the E800 apparantly...i swear its D410
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Posted: 2004-05-25 17:19:25
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Most Samsung phones are shity. You give Nokia a bad rap, when Samsungs are worst.
All samsungs are seemed to be aimed at females. The main selling point are multi coloured flashing LCDs. They haven't even released a BT handset yet. Battery on them are always below par. There is no dictionary option for messaging. The D410 lacks the most simple functions like vibrate and ring at the same time, its one or the other.
But it does have a nice screen so I guess that makes it ok then.
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Posted: 2004-05-25 17:39:00
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