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Cingular switched protocol on their GSM network. This means that if a place receives both 850/1900 band it will use 850. If the location has no coverage for 850, it will jump to 1900 and you will have reception. So if you have a phone that supports 900/1800/1900 bands, like me, you will not get reception on your phone at all most of the time. Even if your friend standing right next to you has full reception. This is because Cingular has more 850 coverage than 1900. And they will continue to increase their 850 coverage in the future.
This switch was placed 1 week after I got the cingular service. Oh what a pain it has been. I'm on the Northeast of the US.
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Posted: 2004-01-25 01:49:50
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Oh man, I hope that is not the case in the Pacific Northwest. If problems arise I still have another triband phone (Nokia 3200 850/1800/1900) that Cingular provided me with. I guess I should keep that as a backup instead of selling it.
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Posted: 2004-01-25 06:50:29
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Do you mean 800/1800/1900? Because that would work vary well in the US (800 and 850 are the same thing). 900/1800/1900 does exist though, and I feel sorry for you if you have that. With a 900/1800/1900 triband phone, you're only going to be utilizing one band (1900) and that only works in metropolitan areas -I don't care who your provider is.
It would be wise of you to go purchase a new phone. SE has all of their models (most via their website) available in 800/1800/1900mhz. That will work almost anywhere in the US, and most places in Europe, and other countries.
PS. It's not a protocal, it's a band. They switched their bands around. And you're special.
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Posted: 2004-06-18 14:09:09
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You should not have this problem if you have a nationwide plan (no roaming charges). You will pick up the 1900mhz if it's available from other carriers.
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Posted: 2004-06-18 17:02:23
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A triband phone like T616 is the choice for Cingular user.
This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2004-06-18 17:32:26
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I was in LA early this month with a T-Mobile EasySpeak SIM on my T68i. I have to say that the signal strength weren't bad all around the LA basin. But the pain comes from all the drop-outs. With 4 bars, I would regularly lose my connection after 3 minutes. This happened on the freeways or on the 40th floor in downtown LA. I couldn't believe how painful it was.
And I assume that T-Mobile is really partnering and using Cingular's network. Is that right? Was the problems encountered to do with this 800 vs 850 band issue?
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Posted: 2004-06-28 02:36:03
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And I assume that T-Mobile is really partnering and using Cingular's network. Is that right? Was the problems encountered to do with this 800 vs 850 band issue?
T-Mobile bought Cingular's network in CA/NV about a +/- month ago.
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Posted: 2004-06-28 20:49:18
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I just have a very simple 'Q' here for all people who lives in the US and uses the Cingular Network. My friend just bought a 2nd hand fone here in Manila. The fone's price was quite OK, considering it's an outdated model-but really looks great, covers are scratchless, fones performance is in tip-top condition! It's a tri-band fone which is locked with Cingular Network in the US. When my friend bought it, it has already been 'open-lined' here in Manila, and accepts all local celfone networks, signal strength is outstanding as well! Now my 'Q' is this, what if the original owner of the said fone in the US had the fone 'lined' (having fixed or not monthly fone bills), and forgot to pay the fone's bills, if still under contract or what, and the Cingular network decided to cut-off my friend's fone line
Will it result to a dead fone now
Many of the celfone technician people that I know here says that there will be no problem with it 'cause the fone has been 'open-lined' already in Manila, it's fate will now lie on the sim-card the fone is currently using locally. What about the distance, can Cingular cut-off my friend's fone here from it's place of origin in the US to my country
I really admire the fone's physical appearance and functions as well . . . . I just hope that he'll not be encountering some future troubles with the fone. The fone is running on it's 2nd week now
Thanks !
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Posted: 2004-06-29 21:05:55
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Residentevil Posts: > 500
When you have a 900/1800/1900 GSM phone, the only real choice you have in the US is T-Mobile. If you use that tri-band phone on a Cingular/ATT network you will get reception, because they overlay the 850 with the 1900. However, the 850 is higher quality and reaches farther. Meaning if you have a 900/1800/1900 GSM phone and your provider is Cingular/ATT you will have less coverage and your signal will drop off faster away from main coverage areas. To optimize your coverage go with T-Mobile if you have a 900/...phone and go with Cingular/ATT when you have a 850/1800/1900 phone.
Most SE phones are 900/1800/1900, so T-mobile is the obvious choice. They are the only true GSM carrier in the US, because outside the US you will barely find carrier that use the 850band. Again if you travel abroad and want to use your phone use 900/1800/1900 and T-Mobile.
Cheers
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Posted: 2004-06-29 21:55:53
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@residentevil - No comment/feedback on my post, any ideas
Thanks!
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Posted: 2004-06-29 22:01:33
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