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Howdy,
I have a new car with a bluetooth system built in and am having significant trouble making the P900 work. The car is a Chrysler product with a Uconnect system built in. I believe it is a motorola product.
I have no problem paring the phone and the car, the system takes the pw and says the two are paired. The BT icon flashes showing two way comm. I have gone through every obvious menu option in the phone (setting handsfree options) and in the control panel (link without confirmation). The system just will not let me make or recieve calls.
So, I took a T616 in the car, paired it and voilia it works first try.
I am thinking there is a difference in the way BT works in the P900 because;
- I tried this earlier this week with an older P900 sw load to no avail, and uploaded the most recent SEMC load yesterday same effect.
- on the Uconnect web site
www.chrysler.com/uconnect they show only the Tseries and the Z series phones, but again this is likely due to ATTWS not selling the P900 due to lack of 850MHz or is there a BT difference?
So anyone have any ideas on maybe a hidden option in the 900 or ??
Thanks,
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Posted: 2004-05-27 15:23:41
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this was a hot topic on a BMW BBS, this is what S-E told them, sorry for the bad news:
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The P900 does support the Bluetooth Headset Profile, but not the Bluetooth Handsfree Profile.
Our car kits HCB-300 and HCB-30 and all our Bluetooth headsets do support the BT Headset Profile, so this phone works with all Sony Ericsson Bluetooth products.
The problem is that some Bluetooth car kit manufacturers have decided to only support the (newer) BT Handsfree Profile (and not the Headset Profile), and then the P900 does not work, along with a number of older Bluetooth enabled Ericsson products. Our own car kit works fine with all BT phones as this product supports both Headset and Handsfree. It may be fair to ask why these other manufacturers car kits do not support the Headset profile? They, by only supporting the newest profile, may have caused some issues with some products.
The T68i supports both Headset and Handsfree, that's why this model works with Handsfree-only car kits
P900 does not support the Bluetooth Handsfree Profile. There is no support for that profile in the version of the Symbian operation system that P900 is based on. It is not possible to upgrade P900 to Bluetooth Handsfree Profile.
The P900 does comply 100% to the Bluetooth Profiles it says it is compliant with, But it simply does not support the Handsfree Profile as it was not the intention.
According to our tests both P900 and P800 work fine with the SonyEricsson Bluetooth car kit HCB-30 and HCB-300.
All Bluetooth headsets/car kits from Sony Ericsson that support the Bluetooth Handsfree Profile are also backward compatible with the Bluetooth Headset Profile.
Several other suppliers of car kits only support the Bluetooth Handsfree Profile and are not backward compatible with the Bluetooth Headset Profile. We have got reports from users that the P900/800 can not pair with built in Bluetooth car kit in BMW (from Visteon), Toyota (Denso), Chrysler (Johnson control) and Lexus (??) Again we could raise the question as to why these kits do not support the older Headset profile and are not backwards compatible.
I realize that this is frustrating for you, but my investigations have concluded in that the P900 was never intended to support the Handsfree profile and that the current operating system does not allow for a software patch to resolve this. Although this will not satisfy you completely, I think it is fair to point out that the P900 was never intended to support the Handsfree profile but if the particular car kit that you are trying to pair to, was backwards compatible, it would be reasonable to expect the unit to work. I do not believe that this is totally a Sony Ericsson issue and would be keen to understand the explanation offered from your vehicle manufacturer.
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so in other words, a P800/P900 cannot work with any carkit unless it's an SE kit
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Posted: 2004-05-27 16:40:29
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Dirkies,
May not be the answer I want but it is fully understandable. SEMC has to build as they have the timing. Thank you very much for the excellent definition of the issue and I too will ask Chrysler why they implemented the system the way they did (my guess is Motorola only builds to the hansfree version!!).
Best regards,
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Posted: 2004-05-27 17:36:48
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That answer was the best I've read around here.
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Posted: 2004-05-28 07:40:24
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Does the lexus also have there problems?
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Posted: 2004-05-28 08:11:04
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That is COMPLETE bullshit, which sucks because this gives me another reason to seek elsewhere when replacing my P900. I require more freedom than this.
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Posted: 2004-05-29 08:03:00
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Yes. We need more freedom! We BMW and $1000 phone-owning peoples of the world. We demand justice. Join the revolution now and overthrow the oppressers.
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Posted: 2004-06-27 03:35:20
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It is quite amusing that one company points the finger at several of the worlds biggest car manufacturers for not making their in-car BT backwards compatible with older BT profiles.
Surely it is Sony Ericsson who have missed the boat by releasing their flagship phone with only support old technology!
Fortunately I have no need for the Handsfree Profile but like many people I would feel robbed if I had bought the P900 and needed it.
SE you f**ked up, no-one else, own up!
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Posted: 2004-06-27 14:03:15
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actually the problem is SYMBIAN doesn't offer the profile in their (closed-source) OS, and
cannot do much about that. I do hear more & more people complaining the flagship of SE doesn't work while olders do work fine, so I guess SE feels the heat in their neck! Esp. with new laws that prosecute usage of mobiles while driving, mobiles being now a common good, and more & more carbrands offering bluetooth carkits as a standard.
But NOTE that Nokia Symbian phones suffer EXACTLY the same issues with carkits since they use the same OS, which is Nokia/SE independent.
The new Symbian OS rumored for the P1000 (or whatever it will be) should have full BT functionality, at least that's what I heard from various sources...
[ This Message was edited by: dirkies on 2004-06-28 18:17 ]
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Posted: 2004-06-28 19:15:04
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That should have been addressed before ANYONE used Symbian as the OS for their smartphones. BULLSHIT I say, BULLSHIT!
We shouldn't have to deal with these sort of limitations when we are using high-end phones such as the P900 or the like.
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Posted: 2004-06-28 21:26:56
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