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howque Posts: 64

I'm a little puzzled here. Seemed to me most of UK phones are simlocked by their respective telcos. Why didn't anyone make a partition or planned effort to protest about it? Almost a decade ago, most of the phones in south east asia are simlocked too. After series of complaints from users and the increased paid modification services, they finally budged. Personally, i think each paying phone customer has the basic right to change their telco as they please. Correct me if i'm wrong here. This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:02:19
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bacanito Posts: 310

thats good to know, maybe we can start that stuff in Canada too! wooo hooo:D

thanks for the info
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:07:18
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stuartdb87 Posts: 468

I agree. But thats the british government for you. Always lookin for a way to get more money. Fones used to be unlocked over here to (all mine were) This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:07:29
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wapchimp Posts: > 500

Well networks sim lock phones are they heavily subsidiese them (free or very cheap in comparison to sim free prices) Thats the reason for the sim lock. Why should a network give a customer a brand new phone only to let them use a competitors sim card in it, and then not gaining any revenue to repay the phone.
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:08:08
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DungeonMaster Posts: 312

In greece happened same 8 years ago. All phones now are unlocked, even vodafone live customised phones. This message was posted from a WAP device
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:08:24
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FuricTrax Posts: 261

I'm kinda with you on the changing telco thing.

However I seem to remember OFCOM which I think is the regulatory body for telecommunications tried to combat theft etc and make it harder for theives to use stolen phones. Thus operator branding/locking was born and even increased in the last few years.

I guess the networks also see it as a way to protect there investment.

Would be good if all networks phones were unlocked though! I'd be able to use my O2 sim at the moment while my number is ported (but I can't as I now only have an Orange phone!).
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:10:36
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wapchimp Posts: > 500

My '3' nec313 isn't locked. I just pop my orange sim in dial 112 hang up. then it logs onto orange. But the software has been locked by 3 so you can't amend any wap & mms settings etc. So not much use unless I only use it for calls.

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[ This Message was edited by: orangeman on 2004-06-30 20:14 ]
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:13:54
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plasmadog Posts: > 500

Well, i guess atleast customers should have a choice in buying an unlocked phone. Maybe, telcos can stock both sets, so customers can make a choice. This message was posted from a T630
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:15:16
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howque Posts: 64

Yeah, i understand. The main reason the telco lock the sim because they already subsidize the phone price to the customer. In fact, telcos in south east asia also subsidize the phone price with a 2 year contract. However, its still not simlock. We only have to pay 4 the penalty fine should we want to dump the telco. This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:16:43
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Residentevil Posts: > 500

Here in US they just started with a lawsuit against the GSM providers. However, I think it is bad, because the operator subsidizes the phone and you can get a great phone for cheap with a contract that lasts 1..2 years. Second CDMA/TDMA providers have phones, that only work on their network. They are not getting sued and it is the same thing.
And if the lawsuit goes through, you might pay higher prices for a great phone. So everybody loses. Plus here in US there are now only two GSM providers and they use partially different bands, so even if you could switch providers easy, you would still have to buy a new phone, otherwise you lose coverage area.
Nobody can win here. In US you can sue anybody anytime for anything.
They have the most laywers per capita.
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Posted: 2004-06-30 21:19:21
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