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Is the P910 Really An Upgrade?
How does in fare with the MPx?
Debate this here!
Well, im really disappointed. The P910 was just another P800 -> P900 upgrade. Whats new? Lets see
A barely noticeable 262k screen.
More memory
They finally released the firmware upgrade to support Duo Pro I saw so long ago on the P800. (Meaning Duo Pro WAS possible on a P800 storage wise, not transfer rate wise).
Qwerty Keyboard
Wow! Software upgrades and a new screen that you cant even tell the difference! ITs just like the P800 to P900. A new flip (again) that could be easily attached to a P900 and made working with a firmware upgrade.
Conclusion: You can get the same exact thing as a P910 with a P900 with JUST a firmware upgrade.
Wtf are SE on? I mean, I spoke with my contacts at SE just a few months ago and they had so much planned i got excited about the P910 but now THIS is all we get? Wow, tsk tsk.
The MPx is what im going to buy, by all means. It has everything the P910 has and more. It looks nice, and is an all around good phone. Im sorry to say but SE is losing me, why the tiny little updates all the time? Why not take a little more time to create a REAL upgrade. Argh!
[ This Message was edited by: Sage on 2004-07-16 03:28 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-15 20:32:24
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the nokia 7700 has been cancelt
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Posted: 2004-07-15 20:37:19
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true.
I also share the same views on the P910. What is the point? The qwerty keyboard looks well hard to use as it is 'floating' from the end of the phone.
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Posted: 2004-07-15 20:58:29
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Sorry, but what does the 7700 have to do with anything? I can understand you saying you'll go for the MPX - you might need wifi, or maybe the 1.3mp camera - but the 7700 has neither, is significantly less functional than the P910, was designed by a blind monkey, and has also been cancelled. So just what's so terrible about the P910 again?
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Posted: 2004-07-15 20:58:30
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the P910 is a great device, you've got to look at it as a T610 to T630 update but with abit more.
the divice you are all waiting for the so called P1000 will be introduced at cebit (not sooner, because this phone will set a new line in history and thats all the info i could get, for now)
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Posted: 2004-07-15 21:15:33
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SE needs something like the first T610 or the S700, a revolutionary phone no a tiny upgrade like the p900 and p910. Well lets keep our eyes in sempteber.
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Posted: 2004-07-15 21:25:44
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Residentevil Posts: > 500
Well Sage we all hate to brake it to you. N7700 is six feet under.
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Posted: 2004-07-15 21:28:19
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Please read befor you complain about the P910.
The screen is 18 bit TFT,this is better than current P900 screen with 16 bit TFT.
It's better,colors are more vivid and the brightness and contrast are better,so what is you point? it has no the same screen like the P900.
Read this.
The P910 looks almost exactly the same as the P900. The most noticeable change is the new flip. Keys are now much larger and they are made of transparent plastic with purple backlight.
The inside part of the flip now contains a QWERTY keypad. It can be used to enter text in all applications, with other options (virtual keyboard, handwriting in Flip open mode and Multitap/T9 in Flip closed mode) still available as alternate input methods. This makes the P910 the only smartphone with all three input methods available by default. The keys are quite small but their convex shape makes typing relatively easy and convenient. Of course, the keypad cannot be compared with full keyboards like 9500's but it can be considered a very useful addition to quickly enter short texts (e.g. SMS messages or emails) on the move and it makes it possible to input data without stylus also in Flip open (or removed) mode.
The flip seems to be much more solid and durable. It is slightly thicker and its spring mechanism is much better. It requires some force to both open it and also to close it, which is a very good thing as it keeps the flip in place when typing on its internal keypad.
The most significant internal changes are enhanced RAM and storage memories. The internal storage drive (disk C:) is now 64 megabytes (i.e. 4 times more than in P900). Operating memory (RAM) has been expanded to 32 megabytes, with over 21 MB free (which is over 3 times more than in P900). This finally makes the P series capable of running much more advanced applications, improves multitasking (by letting you run more programs simultaneously) and also boosts the performance. You are unlikely to see any "Out of memory" messages when working with Opera browser and you no longer have to care about limited storage for Messaging.
All silver parts of the casing are now more shiny and the material they're made of seems to be more durable.
The screen has been upgraded to 262k colors (18 bits). Colors are more vivid and the brightness and contrast are better.
The P910 finally supports Memory Stick Duo PRO cards, which means capacities up to 1 gigabyte.
2. Software
The most visible change is new icons. They are much larger and more colorful.
P910 comes bundled with several valuable applications (some are trials, some are full versions): World Mate Pro, Opera Browser, MetrO, Wayfinder, HP Runestone (printing via Bluetooth), Media Viewer (direct access to news such as Financial Times), Promyzer (market quotes and stock handling), AvantGo (offline browsing) and QuickPoint. The unit I tested also had QuickWord and QuickSheet applications providing support for reading, editing and creating MS Office compatible documents and spreadsheets and PDF+ - an Adobe PDF reader. Storage Wizard helps to you free storage memory by uninstalling unused applications and removing files and documents.
The P910 offers several improvements of the operating system and system applications.
The "Divert all voice calls" option in the Flip closed mode has been replaced with a much more flexible "Accept calls" option. It provides quick access to a list of the following options: All callers, Listed callers only, Contacts, Speed dials, No one.
Messaging application is no longer restricted to four default folders (Inbox, Outbox, Draft, Sent) - now you can create own folders for MMS, SMS and email.
Sony Ericsson P910 finally makes it possible to adjust screen brightness. There are four separate settings: Handheld (normal), Handheld (dimmed), Car (normal) and Car (dimmed).
P910 provides T9 dictionaries and virtual keyboard layouts for a wider choice of languages: English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Finnish, Portuguese, Turkish, Russian, Hungarian, Dutch, Czech, Polish and Greek. You can also choose between several layouts of the hardware keypad like QWERTY, QWERTZ, AZERTY etc.
Another new option is "Incoming call behaviour". Selecting it lets you stay in current application when incoming call is answered. "GPRS alert" option enables an alert when starting phone calls during active GPRS sessions.
3. Summary
The P910, according to its name and new features, seems to be a P900 update mainly aimed at new customers. While its thumb keyboard, extended storage memory and large RAM memory, improved 18-bit screen and support for large Memory Stick Pro Duo cards makes it a very powerful smartphone, it may be considered a bit too little for current P900 owners to upgrade. Let's hope another device with support for EDGE (if not 3G), Wi-Fi and megapixel camera is planned along with UIQ 3.0 and Symbian OS 8 commercial availability.
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http://my-symbian.com/uiq/p910_review.php
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Posted: 2004-07-15 21:29:20
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@ Sage
You cannot comment on the difference between the screens when you have never seen them & are just going off other comments!
DuoPro support was NEVER possible on P800 or P900 otherwise we'd all have it. It may have been possible for SE to have implemented it but they didn't & now they have and you're still complaining!
You also cannot comment on the useability of the qwerty keyboard as u've never used it.
It's a good evolution of the P-Series. Nobody is forced to buy it, it's just another option to the market.
I don't see why people expect quantum leaps every time, if the market moved that fast there would be nothing left to put into the next model & u'd have to wait about 2years between them. U'd soon complain then!!
Think about it!!
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Posted: 2004-07-15 21:32:00
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SE's sales increased 55% over the same period last year (Q3) - sounds like they know what they're doing to me! Oh yes, I like the P910 and I will probably replace my P900 - want the screen, extra RAM (in the real world this matters) and Duo Pro support.
[ This Message was edited by: Jah on 2004-07-15 20:35 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-15 21:34:18
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