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EastCoastStar Posts: > 500

I was lookin at phone shops. (i do sometimes, for somethin to do, ya know?) and i was askin em about the k700/i and they had nooooo idea what i was talking about. noone there has heard of it. then i asked em about the P900, they said " thats the brand new one right? it should be coming out soon" and i was like... no the p910 is the new one... and they were like... the p910?!? whats that?? they didnt know about the z500 being released, or the z1010 or even the s700. before i got my t630, they didnt even know about that! they are so far behind... im getting a K700 soon... by the time i get it... and want a new phone and all... when it gets outdated and new stuff is out... it will just be comin out in the US, if it ever does!! the places here are just so far behind... i wasnt just at one shop eather, i went to 4 different ones!
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Posted: 2004-10-23 22:36:38
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

What se fones do they sell right now? This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2004-10-23 22:46:50
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@EastCoastStar

I recently read a report from 2002, in which the author gloatingly predicted that the U.S. was about to overtake Europe in mobile phone technology. He seemed rather pleased with his assesment and admitted to a degree of schandefreude. He also seemed to be under the illusion that the fragmented U.S. market was somehow an advantage over the centralised standardisation of the rest of the world.

Incidentally, this thread has a spot of discussion on the U.S. mobile market.
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Posted: 2004-10-23 22:49:43
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kimcheeboi Posts: > 500

against centralization, even thought its better...

sounds like Bush on health care

"this is going out to idiot america"


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Posted: 2004-10-23 23:01:00
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@kim

Standardisation allowed both Europe and Japan to leap ahead of the U.S. in terms of mobile technology and services. Competition is all very fine and well, but not if it is actually hampering technological and market growth.
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Posted: 2004-10-23 23:03:55
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ledson Posts: 6

Funny how Standardization is what has made Europe & Asia pull ahead in the Phone tech world, but when it comes to Microsoft trying to Standardize computing, it's "evil"!

Let the flame wars begin!

Luke
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Posted: 2004-10-24 22:47:29
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EastCoastStar Posts: > 500

right now they are mainly selling the t230, t630, t610. other than those three... i hardley ever see any SE phones... SE is still big here... but it seems that if u want a good one, you have to ship from outside the country. (not that those are bad phones, they are excellent!).

i cant believe they say US is going to be ahead of Europe... unfortionatley... Nokia is doing pretty good here :-/ and Motorola is rising by the day. I dont mind Motorola... i just wouldnt want one as my phone. its really only SE for me. I really want to see America get ahead of Europe in the cell phone business. I cant see it happening. noone even has the P800 here... i have never seen one in person. I htink in NYC and california there are a couple... and hardley anyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy s700's, k700i's, or P900's. Noone i personally know has ever seen any of those. USA must have somehting planned for the future...
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Posted: 2004-10-25 00:32:27
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@EastCoastStar

It isn't just a question of handsets, there is also service infrastructure to consider, not to mention cultural differences. This discussion has already been covered, in part, in the thread I linked to above, but I shall give a brief recap.

U.S. mobile customers use their mobiles in a different way to Europeans and Asians. M-commerce hasn't really taken off in the U.S. yet, therefore the level of services available to U.S. customers will be lower, this isn't something that can be changed in a hurry, it takes time. Without the more advanced services available to Europeans and Asians there is no impetus for introducing more advanced technology.

The U.S. networks have bene investing heavily in GSM recently, to expect them to be able to launch major 3G services in the very near future is probably unrealistic. Europe and and Asian operators have a much easier task in this respect because of exisitng GSM infrastructures and the fact that 3G networks have to cover a much small area with a much higher population density.

If the U.S. does want to take the lead in mobile technology it will require massive investment and major changes in how both the networks and customers utilise the technology and services.
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Posted: 2004-10-25 02:41:40
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amagab Posts: > 500

As discussed in earlier threads the manufacturers and providers work differently here in the US. It's not the stores fault that they don't have new models. To start off with, SonyEricsson waits with launching new models in the US until all bugs have been fixed and when the providers can give 100% support.

Europe spent a whole lot money on their 3G network. US providers are more cautious and tries to avoid getting in deep debt before launching 3G. However, on the other hand, non-GSM providers do have 3G up and running for quite some time now.


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Posted: 2004-10-27 17:43:05
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

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On 2004-10-27 17:43:05, amagab wrote:
To start off with, SonyEricsson waits with launching new models in the US until all bugs have been fixed and when the providers can give 100% support.


Have the cows come home yet?

Seriously though, I thought that the U.S. providers were investing quite heavily in improving their GSM networks and that is what is holding back the implementation of 3G in the U.S.

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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2004-10-27 19:30 ]
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Posted: 2004-10-27 20:30:17
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