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puiz Posts: 8

I wish I could see for myself, but it takes Sony Ericsson forever to get this phone in Hungary. So I have to ask: is the QWERTY keypad as good as the Treo's?

Keypad size aside, an important usability question is navigation. I read in a review that as the 910 has no cursor keys, you need to use the stylus if you want to move around in the text you're typing. Now, is that right?! Can't I use the jog wheel for that?!

Maybe SonyEricsson thought, "Oh, we have like five text entry options, so it's okay if one or two of them sucks..." But I disagree! I don't want to use handwriting or T9 ever. I don't want to use the stylus ever. I want to use the keypad and the jog dial, and maybe tap the screen occasionally with a finger.

Could I do that with the P910? I write quite a lot. I use a Treo 270 right now. With the Treo 650 almost out, I don't want to switch to a Treo 600 (I also think Palm OS is dying, it's an old dinosaur, suffering from that disease called "Graffiti," with that Treo keypad just strapped on, and also lacking multitasking or a file system, which is laughable, and palmOne is a dying company anyway...), and I'm wondering if the 910 is an alternative.

I also don't care about all those 9 million useless Palm OS apps. I just want good typing capabilities, and a user-friendly phone.

What do you guys think?
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Posted: 2004-10-28 04:13:04
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jplacson Posts: > 500

I never thought I'd say this, but...

Get a Nokia Refriger..er... Communicator. From the keypad size, and user-interface design alone... this was designed for your specific need... typing.. and not just the usual... but extended typing. Short of a laptop, this is probably the best solution

Neither the Treo or the P910 was designed with 'extended typing' as the only (or preferred) method of input.

You can get by with the P910 using the jog-dial, thumbpad, and an occasional fingertap (they sell this finger ring/stylus that helps finger taps be more accurate). I wouldn't recommend it though... since the P-series was designed with pen-input as it's preferred input method.

BTW, Graffiti was scrapped in favor of Symbian's "Jot" (the one used in all Ericsson/SonyEricsson hybrids) .. it's just rebranded as Graffiti 2.

I personally prefer using the pen. Although I use the thumbpad a lot when I IM, email, or reply to Esato posts... I only use the thumbpad when I enter passwords, or when my phone is in the cradle. Other than that, I'm faster with the pen.
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Posted: 2004-10-28 04:38:55
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puiz Posts: 8

Thanks, but no thanks. I also need it to be a phone, not a refrigerator, as you put it.

I'm 80% happy with typing on my Treo 270. I guess I'd be 90% happy with the Treo 650... And that's good enough for me.

I sometimes hold my Treo in one hand, and type at the same time. That is, I used to, until my Treo's lid broke, now it's almost useless.

I like the fact that the P910 comes from a phone company, not a wannabe such as PalmSpringOne. I also like the screen, the form factor, the file system, and Symbian.

The Nokia isn't an option for me. It's a Treo, a Sony Ericsson, or the waiting game. I'd like to choose the P910, because it's here now.
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Posted: 2004-10-28 16:52:09
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_LAU_ Posts: > 500


A bit off topic:

When I got my P910 I finally undestood all those discussions why isn't the P910 keyboard backlighted.
Well, It's because it's not a real keyboard! The whole keyboard is a piece of plastic with foam underneath. No individual keys!
I find the P910 keyboard usable, but the Treo keyboard seems better for typing on the move. The P910 keyboard needs to be supported by the other hand, or both, depending on the way you type.

About the questions, the P9x00 JogDial is a great invention and I will miss it in my future phones/PDAs.

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Posted: 2004-10-28 17:00:44
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Guy H Posts: > 500

I don't rate the P910i keyboard. far too fiddley. it's a gimmick with limited use. Only use is for in a car on on a rain when you need to type and you hand is shaking. Otherwise I find the stylus quicker.
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Posted: 2004-10-28 17:55:44
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wooglygoogly Posts: 1

Is there a way to buy the "flip" (keyboard) for a p910 and install it on a p900? It's pretty easy to take off/put on the p900 flip. Are the hardware and software compatible?
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Posted: 2004-10-30 00:49:28
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fatreg Posts: > 500

ok if you dont want a 9210 howa bout a 9500 or 9300??

they both look fairly good!

im getting a 9500 as soon as i can lay my mitts on one!

fatreg
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Posted: 2004-10-30 01:14:47
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puiz Posts: 8

They're gonna be pretty damn expensive, no?

Vodafone now lists the P910 on its homepage for Hungary.


I call them, and they say they can't tell me when and where I can look at one! I should go to the showrooms and hope for the best, they say. Then I ask if I can call their showrooms, and they say no!!! Like, "Our staff at the showrooms is busy talking to customers, they have no time to answer the phone."

Can you believe this? Is this specific to Hungary, or are mobile operators this boneheaded all over the world?!

And they never bat an eyelid when I remind them that they have competitors. They don't seem to give a damn if I go with them or the other guys.

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Posted: 2004-10-31 03:41:32
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Andlil Posts: 122

Quote:
On 2004-10-30 00:49:28, wooglygoogly wrote:
Is there a way to buy the "flip" (keyboard) for a p910 and install it on a p900? It's pretty easy to take off/put on the p900 flip. Are the hardware and software compatible?


Nope, completely different connectors.

//A
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Posted: 2004-10-31 09:13:37
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