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hello everyone. i have noticed a lot of people asking about what type of sim do they need to use with a 3G phone. This is confirmed in the UK but i dont know outside... Although Voda i would expect to be the same in each opco.
Well on 3 u will HAVE to have a USIM. 3 have also locked their sims so that u can ONLY use them in a 3 phone and not a 2G phone.
Vodafone use their normal sim (SIM2 With TOOLKIT). These sims work in both 2G and 3G handsets with no problems.
Orange are a bit strange. They say u can use your normal sim, but when i enquired they told me i needed to upgrade my sim to a new universal sim (USIM).
And putting a 2G sim in a 3G phone wont damage the phone or the sim in ANY way at ALL!
hope this clarifies things a little.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 12:51:39
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@voda_jon: Thank you for this excellent bit of information. Maybe laffen of one of the mods will include your information in the Frequently Asked Questions.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 12:55:52
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dont know who you asked in Orange voda_jon but they are wrong, i use a Z1010 with a normal 2g sim, obvisouly i cant do video calling or browse the web at 384kbs, but i can use mms and gprs.
and i can also use a USIM in my K700i no probs.
again it wont do video calling but it will do all the k700 does.
fatreg
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Posted: 2005-01-21 12:59:28
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i asked one of my contacts in orange... i got them everywhere, i need to have them. Its strange y it doesnt work though. if voda can make it happen so can orange an any other network.
but i suppose it depends on network set up etc. I will give the person a slap next time i see them... lol.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 13:03:12
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@voda_jon: One question, do you think that we will be able to do the normal things with a 3G phone, if we flash it with a normal(sim-free) fw or something?
@fatreg: I think voda_jon said that the Orange guys say that you can use it.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 13:05:30
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yes. if u flash it with a non 3 fw it should in theory work ok. but i dont know if u can get the fw for the phones 3 have...
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Posted: 2005-01-21 13:08:04
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Its all very interesting...its almost certainly a marketing ploy by orange to get more money in, tbh i would have expected it from vodafone, but they are the only ones behaving themselves over it!
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Posted: 2005-01-21 13:11:00
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well yeah it shouldnt be any limitation of the sim/phone combo unless a K700i etc cant cope with a 128k sim??
i know the Orange USIM have some very very bizarre addressing structure, allowing one and 3 number etc.
i heard that a V800 wont work with a normal 2g sim? or is that cod sh*t?
hmmmm
fatreg
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Posted: 2005-01-21 13:14:10
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i myself was suprised by this but i suppose it costs money to distribute new USIMS to every customer and every shop. An we all know voda dont like spending their own money unless its gonna make even more money for them. which if they can do it using their older sims then why bother spending more money?
they will probably slowly introduce them as stock of the SIM2TOOLKIT ones run out.
The V800 WILL work with a 2G sim... I am my normal sim (which is about 3yrs old) in my v800 with no problems...
[ This Message was edited by: voda_jon on 2005-01-21 12:16 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-21 13:15:37
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upgrade you sim?
well yeah should you upgrade to a 3g phone youll need to upgrade you sim to a USIM but there is no cost involved,
surely you need to change sims if your changing from a 2g handset to a 3g handset on voda?
fatreg
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Posted: 2005-01-21 13:16:22
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