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Do you guys think SE might be at a disadvantage by not releasing more clamshells? I mean they do seem to be fashionable at the moment.
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Posted: 2005-03-02 21:51:00
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im really hoping they will release some more flip phones love my z600 but would be good if they made a z version of the k750 or the w800
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Posted: 2005-03-02 21:55:18
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I am just wondering why clamshells are predominant in Japan, is that the way the market will pan out eventually?
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Posted: 2005-03-02 22:00:00
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Not too fussed about SE releasing clamshells to be honest.
Starting to become bit too much of a trend and I find them more of an inconvenience than something worth having. The only real advantages of them is you've got the internal screen and keypad covered in your pocket but as long as you don't keep anything sharp with your phone in your pocket, it's not really an issue.
IMO, most are ugly in some way to start with like how SE's have ugly exteriors and Motorolas have ugly interiors (my opinion). The only brand I thought got it right were Samsung with models like the X460, E330 and E700.
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Posted: 2005-03-02 23:06:19
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Clamshells dont seem to be in favour much at the moment. Motorola, who always had a few clamshells out at once seem to be leaving them behind Nokia have only just caught up, as usual and samsung seem to focus more on slide phones now.
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Posted: 2005-03-03 00:20:51
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The main advantage of a clamshell is the fact it's small. Samsung get's this and that's why their sales are trough the roof. Nokia's also catching up with their last clamshell (can't remember the number). I think SE
is waiting untill they can put enough power in a small housing, the main problem with SE clamshells up till now is that they are to big and in this business big does not sell.
This message was posted from a T630
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Posted: 2005-03-03 01:12:13
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@Delta 9 :
I don't agree with you that the size of clamshell is small.
Let's compare Z600 to T610/T630: Z600 is shorter but thicker than T610/T630 and when you open the phone, the maximum length of clamshell will be twice the length when it's folded. Is that you call "small"?
To be honest, Samsung is still the best in clamshell and sliding phone style and the worst is Nokia. SE made it right with Z200 (IMO Z600 and Z1010 is ugly and too thick, too big; never seen Z500 and Z800 yet)
I still can't understand why clamshell always refer to fashion, high-end and expensive phone because IMO most clamshell look so the same and has these disadvantages: short when folded but its shortness is gone when it's open; most of clamshell are thicker than candybar; you need more time to open the flip when activate the phone than candybar; the candybar has more possibility to vary the design the clamshell (clamshell got only that kind of style: with or without external screen, almost same keypad style, with or without external antenna, Nokia clamshells are copyed some of Samsung's, etc.)
So why spend more money to buy a clamshell variant of the phone if the candybar type is available and already good enough? (In other words: why should SE produce clamshell variant of K750 or W800? It'd better for SE to develop new phone than produce identic phone with changing the casing from candybar to clamshell) (And why the price for clamshell phone always more expensive than the candybar one for the same featured phone? For example: the price of Z600 is higher than T630...)
That's all, sorry for clamshell owners... don't take it personal, but it's true...
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Posted: 2005-03-03 02:11:53
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Z800i is the closest that SE has along with W800i and K750i.
I must disagree in some points though. Even though some SE flip phones are huge, but they are very comfortable when putting against the ear. My Z600 feels terrific when I talk and I have no problem with it. Its comfortable in the hand when I hold it even when closed or open.
SE might come up with Z750i or something similar to K750i at GSM-only market and not 3G. the real Z700 was discontinued and thank god it did since the design is terrible. Z750i though would sound nice with a new design and K750i's specs or somewhere near.
2 Clamshell a year would be nice on the market since the number isn't too high and supports the market. If too many came out then just like some of you said, clamshells aren't as popular in some places as the candybar. That's why SE might release 2 clamshell this year(just like Z600 and Z200) for may be Z800i and another mid-end one(Z750i I guess)
To think of designs, I think SE and Samsung recent releases had kept up with their own design and stayed away from other brand's design. Unlike Nokia that came out with 6030 that looks just like K300i but put in black to cover this significant. That's just not a good thought.
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Posted: 2005-03-03 02:52:01
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Dunno why. But i don't like clamshells. But anyway, There's nothing wrong in releasing more clamshells as there are people who like them.
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Posted: 2005-03-03 03:02:05
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SE would actually do really well to release a clamshell version of the 3G K600i. After all, most 3G handsets are large clam phones and this would kick even more ass for clam fans.
. I think Samsung is the current king of the clam.
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[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2005-03-03 02:10 ]
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Posted: 2005-03-03 03:06:00
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