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tazmania Posts: 95

Im a mac user.
I have just upgraded to Tiger which has integrated h264 capabilities !!!
and im really impressed by this new standard. the quality improvement from h263 is huge !!!!

and im wondering. WHEN will mobile makers incoorporate into phones ???
i dont know whats stopping them !
they have the technology to make it happen !!!

if they start using h264 in mobiles, then everyone will be able to record amazing quality videos with their phone !!!
and im sure they would see sales rise ...
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Posted: 2005-05-18 11:42:39
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Dragonfly_TP Posts: > 500

H264? A mobile phone is not an Apple!
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Posted: 2005-05-18 11:57:09
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tazmania Posts: 95

well yeah. mobile phones are currently using H263.

the next step is H264 only when ?
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Posted: 2005-05-18 12:12:59
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orange Posts: 397

I think it's due to a standardization, but I think it's coming in the near future. At least Nokia has an article about on their website, http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,57794,00.html.
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Posted: 2005-05-18 13:03:03
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Dragonfly_TP Posts: > 500

okay I got confused... I will have to read first what H264 is...
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/technologies/h264/
I found this! Very interesting.

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[ This Message was edited by: Dragonfly_TP on 2005-05-18 12:13 ]
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Posted: 2005-05-18 13:12:04
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Davo_169 Posts: > 500

H.264 wound not be worth the small screen of a phone...its high definition which means its best viewed on a 1500pixel plus screen
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Posted: 2005-05-18 13:13:42
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Jools Posts: > 500

Actually H264 is not only for High-definition. It is a scalable codec, which means it is suitable for both small screen very-low datarate applications such as 3G mobile phones right up to high datarate high-def video.

From the Apple site mentioned above:

"H.264 delivers stunning quality at remarkably low data rates. Ratified as part of the MPEG-4 standard (MPEG-4 Part 10), this ultra-efficient technology gives you excellent results across a broad range of bandwidths, from 3G for mobile devices to iChat AV for video conferencing to HD for broadcast and DVD."
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Posted: 2005-05-18 13:23:34
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Davo_169 Posts: > 500

i still dont think the small screen would do it justice
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Posted: 2005-05-18 13:26:16
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Jools Posts: > 500

Obviously a mobile screen won't do justice to a video encoded for 1920x1080, 25 fps. The phone wouldn't be able to play it at 7-8Mbps! But at 176x144, 10-24 fps you'll get much higher quality video at a lower data rate (50-60kbps) than is currently possible with H263.

This means less cost to GPRS or 3G downloaders, with quicker downloads and a much better quality end result.

Now, content providers can use the same codec for everything from 176x144 to 1920x1080 safe in the knowledge that the quality will the the best possible. In the past different codecs were better for different playback platforms.
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Posted: 2005-05-18 13:35:12
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tazmania Posts: 95

davo u still think that it wont do it justice cause u dont know what were talking about !!!

h264 is completely scalable and is exactly the same thing ur viewing on ur mobile right now, but only much better quality. if u cant get that then tough!!!!

just because it will be used for high def, doesnt mean it cant be used for mobiles.
thats the beauty of this codec. and please dont say stuff like this to a vide expert. hell laugh his head off !!!!
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Posted: 2005-05-18 15:15:58
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