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Actualy there are such contracts on o2 you pay 100 pound and get 200 off peak minutes for life This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-08-18 15:36:16
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On 2005-08-18 15:36:16, Greggy wrote:
Actualy there are such contracts on o2 you pay 100 pound and get 200 off peak minutes for life



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No! You see, no company in the world takes your money up front (75 or 100 pounds for example) and then say "we provide you with this service for the rest of your life and you never have to pay us again". Forget it!

On the other hand, if you have another contract with them, let's say a phone line, that you regarly pay for, then it's possible that they take a sum up front and provide you with a "extra" service as long as they are commited to provide you with the main feature (like the phone line in my example) and hense take one sum up front for "that extra service". If you read the contract carefully, you will see that the main feature you pay each month for (the phone line) is not actually a commitment for them to provide you with for the rest of your life - otherwise they would have to actually give you free gprs for as long as Vodafone excists. There's no company in the world that takes a small sum up front and provide you with that service for life without you ever having to pay them anything again! Forget it! There must be another commitment, like a contract that you annually pay for (like each moth or so) that holds the "extra" deal and that they can cancel when your ordinary 6/12/24 month contract is due.

If a company makes deals as you say, then heads would be rolling. 75 or 100 pounds up front today wont pay the technical equipment they need in 10 years to keep giving you their "free for life" service.

Always read the small printing in your contracts There's no such thing as "pay me 10 pounds now and you'll have free lunch for the rest of your life"!

Another example will illustrate what I mean: In Sweden you can pay about 2 pounds each month to send as many sms as you want in the Vodafone network. I could call it a lifetime deal if I want to, but if I read the printing carefully I will see that they "promise" to give me that feature for as long as my contract is valid. My contract is up for renewal every 24 months, so when that period is due they can say that the 2 pounds offer is cancelled and I have no right to claim it - even if I renew my contract!

75 pounds up front today and free gprs for the rest of my life no matter if I choose cheapest possible annual contract fee when todays contract is due? I say it's impossible! There must be a paragraph stating that they can cancel when contract is due - otherwise there's an executive job available at Vodafone UK pretty soon

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2005-08-18 21:48 ]
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Posted: 2005-08-18 16:06:03
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Am i talking to a brick wall lol my sister has 2 payupfront for life contracts she paid 100 pound for each one and gets 200minvtes free on each she makes sure she never goes over her alloted 200mins each month therefore every monthly bill is zero and shes got that for LIFE! This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-08-18 16:26:50
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@Greggy

I must be wrong then! There's really such thing as "pay me 10 pounds now and you'll have free lunch for the rest of your life"!

That lifetime contract that makes her being able to call 200 minutes free each month for the rest of her life without ever getting a phone bill is worth a lot of money!

If those contracts are still available, why don't everyone go for it? If those contracts are not still available, she could sell one of them and make quite some money out of it!

Wow, 200 minutes every month and not ever getting a phone bill for the rest of her life - that's quite some deal mate! Zero, null... each month... no hidden fees, no nothing... for the rest of her life! Whew!

I rest my case
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Posted: 2005-08-18 16:47:17
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What do u mean by a rest my case? You saying im lying? Shes had those contracts 5 years and ive no idea if theyre still available why dnt you ring them and check up This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-08-18 16:59:12
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You did in a rovnd a bout way . You said i rest my case as though you think its so improbable that you dnt believe it This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-08-18 17:30:04
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@Greggy

No, I'm not saying you're lying! All I'm saying is that I didn't know there where executives making such bad deals for their share holders. Five years ago you say? Hmm... that's when heads started rolling in many such companys.

Today I'd say people have learned. As I said earlier, it's against principles of contracts to make "life time" offers that you pay for once and never again. It's also related to consumers protection laws.

[ This Message was edited by: cybervisitor on 2005-08-18 17:16 ]
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Posted: 2005-08-18 17:35:10
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On 2005-08-18 17:30:04, Greggy wrote:
You did in a rovnd a bout way . You said i rest my case as though you think its so improbable that you dnt believe it



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I always "rest my case" when proven wrong (and a few other times) But I think it turned out that I wasn't wrong after all... the deal you're talking about is five years old. Much have changed since then... consumers protection is [luckily] not static. One might ask himself what this has to do with consumers protection; well it does, I just don't have the time to explain it.

I still bet my money that the initial post is wrong though.

About the "200 free minutes and no fee whatsoever for the rest of your sisters life" contract: It's a great deal! But since it was 5 years ago, I think she has to pay a much higher rate per minute if she exceeds those free minutes than someone who gets a contract these days. So, it was a good "life time" offer those days, but not today! If she wants to call at todays low rate when the 200 minutes are out, she has to have another contract though. That's [partially] why it has to do with consumers protection. But that's only one side of the story. The other side is business related and has to do with principles of contracts, but there's really no time to get into that subject.

Now, I finally rest my case

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2005-08-18 17:07 ]
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Posted: 2005-08-18 17:57:26
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called o2 sales depo tday and they said the payupfront contracts finished over a year ago think the rate per min is 2p off peak for calling landline and o2 mobs once she uses up her 200mins
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Posted: 2005-08-19 00:12:00
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