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no worries
actually, 1900 is more widespread at this point in time but 850 will likely catch up eventually.
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Posted: 2005-10-12 08:03:57
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850 signal goes through walls, basements, buildings, ect....
It has a stronger signal. While other carriers have garbled audio and frequent dropped calls. I can say that is the reason I have remained a Cingular customer, due to it's awesome signal. I rather have reliability then switch to another carrier due to a phone model I may like.
850 is definitely the best signal in the U.S.
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Posted: 2005-10-12 14:33:43
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All i can say is, at my house in Los Angeles, with my old p900 (no 850 band) I got zero to one bar. With my P910a, I get 4-5 bars. With my friends p910i, he gets 1 bar.
I get significantly better reception with th e910a than i did with the p900, all over los angeles.
Therefore, the 990i is worthless to me.
Which pisses me off beyond beleif, because I WANT THAT KEYBOARD! the 910's keyboard is useless.
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Posted: 2005-10-12 18:56:53
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Erm, i don't understand what you're saying about the keyboard at all.
This message was posted from a T230
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Posted: 2005-10-12 19:56:37
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From what I have read and heard, the reason Cingular, who bought ATT, uses 850 is they already own the rights to use this spectrum. This was due to the fact that they had TDMA which operates at 850. Cingular wants to implement UMTS and they want to use the 1900 band to do this. They had bought split towers that are GSM 850/ UMTS 1900 and plan to implement like that. That is why they are pushing the 850 band. To implement the wolrd standard UMTS 2100 would be to costly for them.
T-Mobile is the only true GSM carrier in the USA. They built a new network from the ground up. They are slow to implement 3G because they want to buy the additional spectrum for this service like all the other carriers did in the world that are going to implement 3G. In short they are probably going to conform to the world standard.
I hope that my explaination makes sense.
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Posted: 2005-10-12 21:00:51
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Some information on Cingular's network and the 850 band.
http://www.cingular.com/sbusiness/gsm_gprs
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Posted: 2005-10-13 00:06:31
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It is not only P990 that doesn't have 850Mhz but also K750, W800, K600 etc opposed to the T616/T637.
I will explain you the reason. The USA market is very weird. People all they care is to get FREE cell phones from the carrier. They don't care what kind of phone, but they want a free ass phone.
Of course there are other people (most of them visiting these forums) that are interested and love technology, but the majority of people in the states has NO IDEA that they can get an unlocked phone elsewhere. To be more precise, the don't know what GSM is, how it works, that you can get your SIM card and put in another phone. They are used to the connection between the cell-phone of the carrier they get it from, with the carrier itself.
Of course the GSM market is booming in USA because of Cingular, but still the majority belongs to CDMA. But even in that limited GSM market, at least 99% of people are getting their phones from their carriers.
Motorola, Samsung, LG, and Nokia are the big sellers in USA. Even Nokia has low sales compared to Samsung and Motorola.
Sony Ericsson in general offers high end devices. The only way to sell them in mass in the states in only through the carriers. Do you guys think that by putting a P990 on the shelves, would make anybody buy this phone?
At this point, majority people don't even know about Sony Ericsson. That' the reason that SE has decided not to have a US exclusive phone again. See with the new K750/W800/W600.
They even cancelled the W600a which was a US version with 850/1800/1900Mhz and they made it a quad band, so that they can sell it in the rest of the world, because they figured out that they wouldn't have enough sales, if they would sell it in US exlusively.
Sony Ericsson tried to thow in the USA a couple of US version, such as T290, T616, T637 and that's about it. Even the P910a was a desaster because only people who are familiar with this phone, would buy it of market. There is no point to make a phone is order to sell it in a few hundreds of people that watch these forums.
SE has made a couple of quad bands to be released, such as the W600 and Z520. That phones match the US customer demands and could be sold through the carriers at a resonable and expected by the American cunsumer price.
All other phones are just too much for the average person.
But saying all these, still all phones now from all makers DO SUPPORT the 1900Mhz band which is anywhere in the bigger citis of USA. Ok yes in the boonies maybe these phones won't work.
But anyways, who ever is smart enough to like SE phones, will be smart enough to go with T-mobile where it has 1900Mhz exclusively. Actually it is the only US company 100% GSM, which unlocks your phone to use with other carriers, and which really understand what GSM is all about.
Sorry for the long post.
Instead of wipping to SE, maybe you should wipp to the US governmend and FCC, or just move to T-mobile.
[ This Message was edited by: T-mobile on 2005-10-12 23:42 ]
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Posted: 2005-10-13 00:38:16
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EastCoastStar Posts: > 500
okay... i agree with REO on this... the 850 band in the USA is the best... i have used T-Mobile, cingular, nextel, sprint (before they merged), the old voicestream, and.... one more but i dont remember it... i realize that cingular has the best reception out of all of them... and with an SE phone... it has the best signal around... anyway...
it REALLY is VERY upsetting that the p990, k750, w800, etc... dont have the 850 band... cingular is huge over here...SE needs to make more 850 band phones...
the p990 is 3g, so i can understand why it isnt 850... but the k750/w800i?!?1
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Posted: 2005-10-13 01:23:21
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EastCoastStar Posts: > 500
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On 2005-10-13 00:38:16, T-mobile wrote:
Of course the GSM market is booming in USA because of Cingular, but still the majority belongs to CDMA.
thats crap... NOONE uses CDMA hardley anymore over here... they have no good phoens, and the service SUCKS... sprint and verizon (i believe verizon does) uses CDMA... and i iDEN... (nextel) and i get better service on my iDEN than any CDMA... however GSM towers over both of them and are way better... CDMA sucks...
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Posted: 2005-10-13 01:27:17
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Like I've said many times, People are just not phone savvy here in the US (with the obvious exceptions). Like T-mobile said, most people in the states want a free phone and can't be bothered with the models name. Hell half the people I have talked too think their carrier made the handset. There won't be a P990a because there is no demand for one... not if you have to pay for it anyway.
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Posted: 2005-10-13 01:38:12
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