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max_wedge Posts: > 500

it'll stop but since the mmc-60 has no mike you have to detach to use the phone
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Posted: 2006-02-21 02:34:54
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rockygali Posts: > 500

is this mmc-60 has alternatives? or are these products only available in SE shops?
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Posted: 2006-02-21 06:49:49
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private_ryan Posts: 86

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On 2006-02-21 06:49:49, rockygali wrote:
is this mmc-60 has alternatives? or are these products only available in SE shops?



YES, there is an alternative and it costs cheaper than buying the mmc-60!

First, you must have an adapter like the one that comes with W800i package (hpm-70 adapter) or any 2.5mm stereo adapter (most have no built-in mic) like the one below.



Then, secure (2) mtrs. stereo cable or any length you want, (1) 2.5mm stereo connector and (2) RCA jacks (red & black).

Below is a sample of metal 2.5mm stereo connector.



Then, connect/solder the 2.5mm stereo connector and 2 RCA jacks to the stereo cable at both ends as illustrated hereunder.



If you do not want to make it by yourself, this stereo cable connector is always available in the market. But its fun if you can invent it by yourself!

Hope this would help you somehow.

good luck mate.
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Posted: 2006-02-21 08:54:07
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

it's true it's cheaper to buy a 3.5mm adapter but the mmc-60 isn't very expensive anyway, and much better audio quality. Also, handmade cables are okay if you have good soldering skills, but if you are a beginner I wouldn't recommend making your own.

Besides, you can actually buy 3.5mm to rca cables ready made for cheaper than the components you'd need to buy to make your own so by the time you make your own cable and buy an adapter, you could have bought the mmc-60 and have change left over.
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Posted: 2006-02-21 12:03:49
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private_ryan Posts: 86

here in us, mmc-60 is quite expensive it costs more or less Php2,000.00 and in order to be sure that you're buying the original one is you must buy it only from SE authorized dealers which are very few and the stock is very limited too.

so you need to seek for a fair alternative like the one i presented. buying an adapter would only cost you at about Php600.00. then if you would decide to buy or make your own 2.5mm to rca cable that would cost at about Php200.00 so that you will have a good stereo cable (same as mmc-60!) at about Php800.00 only.

by that you'll have more than 50% savings rather than buying the mmc-60 and you'll surely get the same performance and sound quality!:)

it's a practical alternative in fact!:)
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Posted: 2006-02-21 13:11:42
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

I'm sorry but I have to disagree about the sound quality. A self made cable and cheap 3.5mm converter will only barely match the hpm70, if not worse. Yet the MMC-60 is way better quality audio transfer than the hpm70, so I can't see your solution offering the same audio quality as the mmc-60.

By all means it may be an alternative for someone trying to save a buck, but it's not a better alternative technically speaking. And I'd be surprised if you can build a cable cheaper than buying one. Here in Australia, You can get such 3.5mm to rca cables for $5, where as a length of cable, two rca jacks and a 3.5mm jack will cost atleast $8 (more if you use gold plated connectors).

And at $23 the mmc-60 is about twice the cost of the adapter and cable you suggest, for substantially better audio quality. I personally think the extra cost is worth it. And even if I went with the fastport to 3.5mm adapter I wouldn't bother making my own cable (which will cost me more) I'd just buy one off the shelf. Believe me I like modding shit like the best of them, but why bother with something as trivial as a 3.5mm to rca adapter lead? I'd rather spend the time doing more mods to my Car-100

I'm not arguing that your suggestion won't work; it will. And I'm not arguing that it isn't a cheaper alternative; it is. However, it simply won't offer the same audio quality as the mmc-60.

I'd strongly advise anyone who can afford to spend the extra to make their own cable, actually put that money towards the mmc-60 rather than chance wasting it by building a cable that offers too high resistance because the soldering isn't 100% (audio connections are very demanding and must be perfect or signal loss will result).

Believe me audio soldering is critical. Building your own audio cables is not for the beginner. Not if you want any sort of reasonable audio quality.
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Posted: 2006-02-21 17:31:01
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randomtask77 Posts: 313

I was able to use my phone even with the cable attached. Though I'm not having the conversation through the car speakers, I was just holding the phone as I would regularly.
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Posted: 2006-02-21 18:19:27
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

okay, that's good news. I guess that's why it doesn't change to handsfree profile - because then the mike would be disabled as it is when a handsfree is attached (to use the mike on the handsfree)

Since it doesn't switch to handsfree, when a call comes in audio functions revert back to the phone, not the cable.


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Posted: 2006-02-22 01:27:13
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private_ryan Posts: 86

i actually made my own 3.5mm to rca cable, so far i haven't experience any problem regarding sound quality. soldering doesn't require any skills anyway my 11-year old nephew already knew how to use the soldering iron.

what i am trying to point out that there is always a good alternative solution in every problem that one might encounter. like for instance, if you have already an adapter like the hpm-70 (that has a built-in mic), you can either BUY (the ready made one) or MAKE (if you wish) a 3.5mm to rca cable. that would save you a buck rather than buying an mmc-60!

so if you're a beginner and don't know how to solder, then, buy only the ready made 3.5mm to rca cable instead of buying a new mmc-60 then connect it to your hpm-70 adapter. That's it.

that's the point, and that is why it is being called an ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION as what @rockygali is asking for.

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[ This Message was edited by: private_ryan on 2006-02-22 05:04 ]
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Posted: 2006-02-22 04:51:17
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rockygali Posts: > 500

ei guys no need chasin around the bushes... thanx for tha replies!!!

thanx PrivateRyan! i really planning to make my own one... i just need someone to confirm if its workin fine without hiccups... glad you did, and so be it!


adios compadres! till next time!
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Posted: 2006-02-22 05:53:16
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