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@Optiplex,
This is a clever suggestion, thanks
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Posted: 2006-02-02 14:31:42
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Nice one Opti!
But SONY has the digi cam market already, integrating it an obvious, so why not now?
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Posted: 2006-02-02 14:49:52
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I heard, that some new Nokia with 2Mps camera uses Carl Zeiss
so all the nokia 2mps does not use CZ lens?
and the n70 does not use it too.......so is the pics taken on the 2mps with CZ lens better than the ones taken on n70?
or does both the phones have diff. censors?
thankyou
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Posted: 2006-02-02 16:32:06
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only N90 uses Carl Zeiss optics
well i haven't seen comparisons but they must be better as the sensors are the same...i think
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Posted: 2006-02-02 16:55:08
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On 2006-02-02 14:49:52, 786KBR wrote:
Nice one Opti!
But SONY has the digi cam market already, integrating it an obvious, so why not now?
Well... Sony clearly being ahead of Samsung when it comes to digital cameras shouldn’t have any problem coming up with a better model than Samsung SCH B500. I believe it is something like Intel and AMD making high end CPUs and crippling them to make slower speed chips to meet the low end market demand. If a 2.4Ghz chip and 3.6GHz chip are same (first one being crippled after manufacturing) then why don’t they just sell only 3.6Ghz CPUs ? better yet, sell 3.6GHz at the price of a 2.4GHz (since they are selling crippled 3.6GHz at a much lower price anyways) ??
It is all because they don’t want to put out something that is not in demand. Why bother when you can make enough money selling old technology? In my opinion same thing holds true for phone cameras. Still people are not considering the camera quality as the number 1 feature when buying a phone, and despite some exceptions like K750 and N90; still phone cameras are not considered as anything worth considering. So until that perception is changed I don’t think SE, Nokia or any other phone manufacturer will see a big benefit in putting out a high quality phone camera, I mean they are already doing well with selling 2MP camera phones, right ?
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Posted: 2006-02-02 19:58:17
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@optiplex,
there is a good sense and logic in what you say. I didn't think before, that the leading companies may hold on the progress, waiting for the market capabilities. But I guess there could be a good market now for phones with 7-8 Mp cameras, even at a price of let say $2.000 or more. Because I think it is worth to have a quality camera and a phone in a small and compact device, always in your small pocket. And customers, ready to pay for them.
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Posted: 2006-02-02 22:52:02
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It is definitely good to have a good camera in a phone. However I don’t think many people will pay $2000 for one. SE is not a niche market player; if we look at their product line we can see they have more low end/ midrange phones than high end expensive ones, so clearly they are targeting the low budget market. So I don’t think they would come up with a $2000 phone anytime soon.
Lets assume for a moment that SE makes a good phone camera; then I’m sure Nokia will release one of their own to compete in a matter of months or weeks making the competition even; so would SE or Nokia benefit from that ? I don’t think so. Because people who want phones will buy phones whether there are good cameras in them or not, and those who want only cameras will not buy a “Camera with a phone” because they would be expensive than normal Cameras. So at the end they won’t be doing any better than they did by selling low end camera phones.
Therefore putting out good cameras does not automatically mean good business for phone manufacturers; however they would certainly be doing us a big favor.
Anyway that is what I think.
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Posted: 2006-02-03 04:06:30
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In my opinion its al a marketin strategy! Y put CZ lense when other manufacturers rnt producin phones wit good pic quality than SE?
This message was posted from a T300
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Posted: 2006-02-03 07:45:43
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@ Opti
I think SONY should/are keeping an eye on the sales of the N90, I believe the only thing selling that huge hunk a junk is the branding of the camera!(as pathetic as it may be)
So if people are forking out 400+ pounds for that phone,
can easily make a phone 10x better than that of the N90 in the same price bracket!!
I think the markets are split, some would prefer a digi cams, where as others would prefer a phone + a digi, mostly i think coz of its convienience, everyone has their phones with them anytime, any place....
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Posted: 2006-02-03 08:04:37
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Yes, I agree that Sony should do better, I mean after all they do know how to make cameras so why not use some of that technology to make better phone cameras?. However unfortunately SE is not that concerned with the camera aspect as I see it. I mean Nokia at least has a 3MP camera coming up soon, but SE has not yet even announced a 3MP camera?? (correct me if I’m wrong)
As I said before I still don’t think phone camera quality is considered number one priority among consumers. An example is Sharp 903SH. Even though it has been out for a while (since Aug 2005), It is still not very popular despite the 3.2MP camera with 2x optical zoom and Auto focus. It also has a super large display and all the features of a high end non smart phone like MP3 playback, expandable memory, FM Radio , 3G , list goes on…
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Posted: 2006-02-03 09:18:15
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