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On 2006-02-15 02:21:51, lukebonathan wrote:
yes lots of smokers can live longer then non smokers, I knew a non smoker, he was hit by a car and died when he was 12, alot of smokers will last longer then that, but one thing has to be said you are addicted to a harmfull drug which has been directly linked to many diseases and cancer (but then again what hasent lol).
I have personally known someone who was a chain smoker and lived all the way upto the ripe old age of 90,which is way above the mortality rate in the world today...and i also personaly had a friend who never smoked a cigeratte in his life,worked out daily..ate healthy food,yet one day he was out jogging in the morning as routine,and suddenly collapsed and died on the spot...i mean that i was a major shock to m,now that way is see it is when your time comes it comes...smoking or not smokingn.i feel its better to live your life how you choose.
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On 2006-02-15 02:21:51, lukebonathan wrote:
the problem is alot of people know that the raw mateials used in tobacoo products are harmfull to themselves and their family, and alot of people don't want to be exposed to this as they fear it could effect their heath.
of course and i completely agree with that....there is no need for people to be breathing in other peoples second hand smoke,if i was a non-smoker i would'nt want to either...but why should smokers be penalised for this,should be equal rights for both!
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On 2006-02-15 02:21:51, lukebonathan wrote:
You could go to a smoking bar, or even better set up one of those mini bars in your office etc lol
I do go to smoking bars and restaurants as much i possibly can,but somtimes its unavoidable due to other friends invitations ect...cant have mini bar at the office unfortunately.
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:33:28
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some very valid points there. In a way its pointless to argue the effects on smoking as you said it depends on the perosn, there have been some (rare) cases where people smoke 20 a day and have lived to over 80 I believe.
I think regarding the whole smoking ban it should be introduced in public places, but not a complete ban
and lastly it really is a shame you can't have a mini bar in the office, id love one mself be great. Also you mentioned being agrivated that you can't smoke at non smoking bars, but have you ever though or tired giving up? (im not saying you should or anything as I think its your choice but mearly out of curiosity as you seem to be quite reliant on tobaco)
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:46:00
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Its an amazing thing. I hate going out and coming home stinking of cigarettes. I despise the smell of it!
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:50:08
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On 2006-02-15 02:46:00, lukebonathan wrote:
but have you ever though or tired giving up? (im not saying you should or anything as I think its your choice but mearly out of curiosity as you seem to be quite reliant on tobaco)
Yes i have kind of tried giving up....but i can't imagine have a pint without a cigarette,its just unimaginable,would'nt be the same...yes i suppose you could say im reliant on tobbaco....maybe one day someone may invent something to make one stop in one day!...until then i want
stick a windproof lighter in the next
phone!
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Posted: 2006-02-15 03:00:19
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hmmm not a bad idea, though there will be a new bread of arsonists running round with se phones lol
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Posted: 2006-02-15 03:08:24
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im not a smoker never touched any of that in my life, I think its a filthy habit tbh and I hope they also make smoking banned at workplaces, public transport etc
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Posted: 2006-02-15 03:08:53
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we already have such laws here in australia.
Personally while I think it's a good thing, what's not good is that now every smoker hangs out outside when smoking, meaning that passerbys get the smoke in their face and not the smokers workmates
I ride around the city a lot and never used to have to ride through clouds of smoke. Since this legislation has passed, I've been subjected to more smoke while riding than in all the years previous!
After the legislation was passed, they had to modify the legislation to make it illegal for smokers to stand near building entrances while having their smoko. I came out of the maternity ward one day and had to walk through a thick cloud of smoke to get outside. I mean that's just stupid. I got nothing against smokers, but wouldn't it be common sense not to stand near a hospital entrance smoking?
I think the bans are about time, because many smokers are completely unaware of how uncomfortable (let alone carcinogenic) cigarette smoke is to non-smokers. Infact I think it should go further and make all public thoroughfares smoke free. If the majority of smokers hasd an ounce of consideration these laws would have never been necessary.
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Posted: 2006-02-15 03:39:56
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@miss uk i think we have a ban on smoking on public transport already dont we? lol
dunno about this ban, im a smoker but i think the only time it would really hit me is when im out drinking and clubin cos i recently went 2 NY and they have a ban in all public areas but i was fine.
This ban in the UK is it all public areas or what?
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Posted: 2006-02-15 04:00:10
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On 2006-02-15 04:00:10, p900 lover wrote:
@miss uk i think we have a ban on smoking on public transport already dont we? lol
dunno about this ban, im a smoker but i think the only time it would really hit me is when im out drinking and clubin cos i recently went 2 NY and they have a ban in all public areas but i was fine.
This ban in the UK is it all public areas or what?
Cant you smoke in the street??
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Posted: 2006-02-15 08:08:19
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I am very happy about this and it been too long coming.
Virtually anything else that a person does in public that is potentially dangerous or harmful for others around them comes with some sort of legislation to protect the general public.
I'm not sure that private clubs should be included but of couse there are also health and safety issues to consider for workers.
Providing partial bans or fixed areas for smokers is not an answer as has been proved time and time again where smokers, or smoke, spills over into non smoking areas and also makes it harder to enforce.
At the end of the day I believe it will only be the current, and possibly next generation who will really be affected by this as subsequent generations will consider this the norm and indeed I believe less kids will start to smoke as it becomes more taboo... and that can only be a good thing IMHO!
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Posted: 2006-02-15 08:31:00
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