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batesie Posts: > 500

well its like....

microsoft virus = car crash (100's every day round the world)
apple Virus = Airplane crash (1 a year)

the media never report on every car crash as it happens all the time, where as if a plane crashes, its big news lol

(hope you like my analogy)
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Posted: 2006-02-23 11:37:31
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Luke-the-magic-man Posts: > 500

good analogy mate lol

lets face it mac os rocks windows is poo, mac is fast windows is slow, I think these press releases are brought on by microsoft trying to smear mac reputation
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Posted: 2006-02-23 12:05:42
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

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On 2006-02-23 12:05:42, lukebonathan wrote:
good analogy mate lol

lets face it mac os rocks windows is poo, mac is fast windows is slow, I think these press releases are brought on by microsoft trying to smear mac reputation



Mac security is a myth. Once mac gets hit as hard as Windows does everyday watch the leaks spring. You mac users will be rowing a barbwire canoe up shit creek mates None of you will be using AV software, spyware scanners, nothing.

And regarding speed my friend luke, OSX would run like crap on a PIII 600 with 192MB RAM. My laptop is such a beast, and it runs Windows XP just fine, so I guess that means Windows is actually faster than mac osX. THANK YOU
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Posted: 2006-02-23 12:44:20
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Luke-the-magic-man Posts: > 500

what you mean my dad has a ibook 60mhz and 256 ram, and even that is faster then my 1.7ghz pc with 768mb of ram - bootya
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Posted: 2006-02-23 13:22:42
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haynesycop Posts: > 500

Erm have you owned a mac aswell as a pc? Apologies if you have but you cannot make assumptions without backing them up.

I have owned both a pc and a mac and i can say my mac ran faster even though the pc had a higher spec processor.

THANK YOU!!!

It is like what Jool's said, microsoft have problems all the time so it''s never in the news, mac's don't so when a tiny hiccup arise's everyone goe's awol over it


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Posted: 2006-02-23 13:28:41
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Gigs Posts: > 500

Um maybe we have different media here but it seems every MAJOR trojan/virus that is going to mass mail someone is reported in the news for windows..

Since the x86 install for OSX is ahem freely download ahem it gives much more chances for malicous developers to see what they can do with it.

I think the main reason it's receiving such a big deal is mac lemmings usually come out with "but nyah nyah we're better than you because we don't have virii (malware)" well now you do.

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Posted: 2006-02-23 21:23:30
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

Miss copperfield I've got many years experience with both mac and windows systems, predominately with windows. However, I certainly know enough about mac technology to make the claim that windows xp is faster than mac osx. I'm not "assuming" anything, my view is based on my experience and knowledge of computers, not guess work or emotional "us versus them" arguments.

Luke: "what you mean my dad has a ibook 60mhz and 256 ram, and even that is faster then my 1.7ghz pc with 768mb of ram - bootya"

Mate what I'm saying is that the MAC OS, the operating system, not the hardware, is slower than windows. MAC OS X (if modified to run on intel hardware) would be underpowered on a PIII 600, where as Windows XP runs fine. So therefore MAC OS X has more overhead than Windows.

Your dad's ibook is faster than the 1.7G pc because the mac hardware is more efficient (motorola chips run at lower speeds for the same performance as intel chips), it has nothing to do with the OS. MAC processors have always had a slower internal bus speed than equivalent Intel processors and usually perform about the same due to internal efficiencies. But now that MAC is being run on intel you'll find it doesn't quite have the hardware edge it used to.

As far as the speed of windows I will admit one thing, if you install bucketloads of poorly designed background software, have malware on the system, no firewall etc, then your system will run very slow. In 90% of cases where people have brought me windows machines that are running like a dog, they just needed cleaning up a bit and they sharpen right up.

My PIII 600 laptop runs faster than a friend of mine's ibook (not sure the processor but it's about the same as your dad's I think), but she has so much crap installed on it, and stuff running in the background, the hard drive has no space yada yada. Her mac crashes more frequently than my laptop (I can't actually remember the last time my laptop crashed tbh).

The fact is, both OS's have their advantages. Windows is no longer the crash monkey nor the memory hog that it used to be but MAC users still haven't realised this. They live in the past of Windows 3.1 where MAC systems had a clear advantage. This situation no longer exists guys.

And as Apple carve market share with their new cheap intel based systems, and become more exposed to viruses, the myth of mac superior security will also be broken.

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Posted: 2006-02-23 22:56:05
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Jools Posts: > 500

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Um maybe we have different media here but it seems every MAJOR trojan/virus that is going to mass mail someone is reported in the news for windows..


Yeah, every MAJOR trojan/virus is reported for Windows, but not the 100's of little ones, which these couple of Mac ones are comparable to.

If these same trojans had been released on Windows they wouldn't have got a mention as the threat level is rated very low by the AV companies.

Yet because they were released on Mac (used by <5% of people) they're reported by every major news network the world over!
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Posted: 2006-02-24 10:25:30
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Rocky B. Posts: 357

*cough*



Now THAT is what you call a security problem. Bastards.
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Posted: 2006-02-24 23:03:16
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Luke-the-magic-man Posts: > 500

@ max, I agree with alot of what you said, but I to have ahd allot of experience with macs and pc, definetly less then you, but my pc has firwalls virus protection, the most updated malware and spyware checkers etc and is not filled with crap, but it really my dads i book does run faster.

Regarding the crashing thing I knwo many windows pc's which won't crash, and im not saying mac never crashes, I think that my mac hs crashed about 2-3 times since I had it, but my pc does do it far moreoftem, but this is normally due to external harware.

I will state mac os is the best platform I have used todate, it maybe personal prference, or it may just be its true

I don't have anythign against windows except for its general tempermentalness, the reason i changed to mac was because itunes stopped working on my pc, even after deleting all the registtry infomation etc it wouldt work, had my bro to look at it, but no luck, only thing that would have done it was a fresh boot which i really couldnt be asked to do, so i bought mac, which in my opinion was one of the best decisions i've made yet.

i find macs much better suited to my lifeccle, but do miss the occasional windows feature, so to help me get over it I bought a new lappy today, and guess what, its windows

thoguh i do critisise the thing you said about apple craving market chare and released their new "cheap" macs, the bit that i disagree with is cheap, over here the mac book pro costs £1430 which is more then just about any windows laptop

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