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On 2006-05-27 14:39:12, CiberKnight wrote:
@Vlammetje: Elton is talking about the picture you use for make the themes, some people used to ripe them, that's what he is saying to protect.



I know that, however I don't see how signing away your ownership to somebody else to get protection is really a solution I should fancy.

And I'm no fan of DRM protection to be honest but on themes it does work nicely
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Posted: 2006-05-27 17:42:18
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I think you're misunderstood.

The author is still credited. Even with protected themes, the author name remains intact. Where are you getting the impression that it gets removed? It doesn't.

Please, check the facts first.
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Posted: 2006-05-27 17:51:56
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I think you will see that that is precisely what I asked a few posts above. Perhaps a proper answer would be the way to go? How else does one check facts?

Adding the sites name and url to the creator/pwner section of the theme is in my view not kosher. After all the site didn't create the theme did it? In fact the site would probably not exist at all if there weren't other people creating and uploading themes.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud the initiative to try and stop people leeching, however if your themes are already uploaded to your site to begin with, I really really fail to see why your site should be mentioned internally on the themer fields as well. Back to the point of exchanging themes between phones (and not downloading them from any one site), the theme in my opinion sjhould remain showing 'created by: Themer X' and only Themer X.

The site has no claim to the themes in my view.

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[ This Message was edited by: Vlammetje on 2006-05-28 10:52 ]
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Posted: 2006-05-28 11:46:27
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The user uploads the theme to the site to protect it. The theme is therefore downloadable from the site.

As such, the URL field within the theme is changed to show the URL of the where the theme can be downloaded.

It's quite logical in my opinion.
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Posted: 2006-05-28 14:56:25
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I completely understand what you are saying vlam, but the author name remains 'as written' in the theme creator author section, so full credit remains with the author, we must remember that the uploader chose to upload and protect their theme at MT, if you dont want any .thm file adjustments, dont protect the theme, and upload it as normal.
This should be seen as an optional extra for the MT website, so why not place a link where more themes from this author can be downloaded?
I always try to remember to fill in the url information, now it is done automatically, i wont see my themes uploaded at zedge anymore, and i wont find parts of my theme all over the place.
No one ever had a problem with what was posted in the url form before, and they have no reason to be concerned about it now, the only issue really, is to theme sites that have members who want to host MT protected themes, but dont want to have the MT url info, there are already hundreds of themes hosted at......www.ABC.com.....containing url info, for www.XYZ.com, so whats the difference?
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Posted: 2006-05-28 19:22:43
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You think you've got the right to change in-theme credit fields just because you host/protect the file? Uh, yea.. right. Whatever. What if the uploader is not the creator of a file but uploads it anyway? Credit fields get changed without the authors consent or knowledge. And frankly, I think this thread is a little spammy.

I don't like it


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Posted: 2006-05-28 21:46:41
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Sigh. You're still not getting the point. Why are you hiding behind another username?

The creator's name is not changed in the theme at all, regardless of who uploads it.

If person A uploads a theme that person B created, the theme credit will still show that person B created it. Why is that so hard to understand?

Also the thread is hardly spamming, MTP (Mobile Themes Protection) is a service designed to benefit theme creators. If nobody talked about it, how would others know about it and benefit from it?


[ This Message was edited by: jw on 2006-05-28 23:34 ]
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Posted: 2006-05-28 22:43:20
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I may well be new to this forum, but im no newbie.

Theme leeching, image ripping, mass uploading of non self-created themes to multiple theme hosting sites without author permission, seems to be a pretty big problem, take a look at any respected and/or popular (but not always both) theme sites, and you will find multiple threads, with multiple complaints from theme authors about these very issues.
While this protection can not tackle all of these problems combined, it does go a long way into making it a great deal more difficult for these people to carry on doing it. And this is the whole point, no one is trying to rule the world here, MTP is a service that gives much better protection than the SE drm packager, is an optional built in feature, that places a link to the originating web sites url, and more importantly, the original authors complete collection of themes!
The author details box, with url bar was added to the theme creator v1.80 on, for this very reason!!!
Or should we just put our shoe size in there???

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Posted: 2006-05-28 23:20:05
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What are the advantages of the "SE DRM" program mentioned earlier, compared to this tool? Or, conversely, what are the disadvantages?

Also I don't see the problem between you guys about the tag in the theme creator, after all the author's name stays there (I checked), plus the whole idea is to stop people using theme creator to open the file anyway so it shouldn't matter...

Personally I don't think you should be arguing about this, I know lots of people who have been wanting this facility for a long time... don't spoil the community spirit! The mobile themes guys are only trying to help the themers out there. People were arguing on lots of other forums I visit complaining about theme leeching... now someone has done something about it, you are still arguing!

I've been lurking around here for a while, but I felt I had to sign up to post my 2 cents on this subject.

[ This Message was edited by: ukk4d on 2006-05-29 00:02 ]
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Posted: 2006-05-29 00:10:00
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Thanks for your support ukk4d, you are right, that is all we are doing.

There are no advantages with the se drm protection, more like disadvantages , its easy to break manually and there is also a drm removal application, this does not work on MT protected themes.
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Posted: 2006-05-29 22:32:04
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