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So? Low end cameras generally don't even have auto-focus let alone an optical zoom so why compare an optical zoomed camera with the K750 and K800?
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Quote:Entry-level cameras are just that: good cameras for users who are keen to take small, medium-quality shots or the occasional family shot, or for users who don't know much about photography and want to get used to digital photography first. Entry-level cameras usually have a resolution range of up to 2 megapixels (1 megapixel equals 1 million pixels) with little or no manual options, and are priced around the $300-400 mark.
The K750 has 2MP, manual exposure (iso really), white balance, and on top of that auto-focus and macro mode, so it's ahead of the game on a few scores compared to an entry level digital camera.
If you want an intermediate camera, pc world say this:
Quote:Mid-range cameras, the largest category of digital cameras, tend to offer more advanced features, such as manual shooting modes, quality optics, and a resolution of 2 to 3.3 megapixels, so you can make large prints and crop effectively. Most intermediate digital cameras will have an LCD screen and higher lens quality with optical zoom. Expect to pay anything from $500 to $1200.
The K750 can almost keep up with the lower-intermediate range, falling down on the optics only. (prices in AUD)
As for Digital zoom, it's a joke, I never use it in any shape or form, you've got no argument there.
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Posted: 2006-07-27 19:22:10
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If it doesnt have optical zoom, it doesnt qualify for a worth while camera. Its just that simple. In 7/10 occastions you need some kind of zoom
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Posted: 2006-07-27 19:32:59
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Thx for the reply's , Yes these pictures are very good in comparison with that ones from Phone Arena .
I think maybe is the firmware , due that the test was taken in January of this year
Yes you're right with the digital cameras,they are better to take photos . But , I want to have all in one
, that's the thing .And for my needs , w810 is quite good.
PS: Here in Canada , the UMTS network is not avaible yet . So all this Third Generation fones are not avaible here , including K800 .
Soo the w810 is my only good option around here .
Good Luck to everyone!
[ This Message was edited by: maryus51 on 2006-07-27 19:22 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-27 20:19:16
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Who tryed Siemens CX65 ? It was a cool fone a few years ago. That was my first fone with camera. Surprisly , it had a 0.3 Mpixel camera , and it took very good pictures for that class , even you could read the text from the monitor.
My next one was Nokia 6230 , it had better music capabilities and speaker , but i was dissapointed by the quality of pictures ,still a 0.3 Mpixel camera . And had a small display ( 128x128 ) in comparison with Siemens CX65 wich had 132 x 176 pixels .
Here is a Nokia 6230 photo (or 3
) just for the old days , heheh
Cheers.
[ This Message was edited by: maryus51 on 2006-07-27 19:34 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-27 20:33:48
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On 2006-07-27 19:32:59, QVGA wrote:
If it doesnt have optical zoom, it doesnt qualify for a worth while camera. Its just that simple. In 7/10 occastions you need some kind of zoom
You are entitled to that view but I find it narrow-minded. Some of the greatest photographic works the world has seen were created with shitty cameras. For example the box brownie photographers, or a photographer (whose name I can't remember) who used compact 35mm (no zoom of any kind) cameras for his art.
The single most important factor in photography is composition. The second most important factor is can it be viewed well on it's intended display medium.
Any other factor is relatively unimportant. Yes optical zoom gives you more control, but less control just pushes more creativity back onto the photographer. It's part of the challenge and interest in photography to use a limited device (all cameras are imperfect even high-end dslr's) to achieve the desired result. If you can't use a camera without a zoom, then you simply aren't trying hard enough.
Checkout these pictures and if you still believe you need massive detail and zooms to take a good photo:
Box Brownie Photography
Reichhold Digital Camera Photography
So I say, bring on that SE camera phone photography, and hang the critics
Go the W810!!
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Posted: 2006-07-28 01:53:45
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w810 as a very good camera. I had a lot of fun and took over 500 photos with it until I decided to sell it to buy a K790. most of the pics are store in my hard disk for years to come.
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Posted: 2006-07-28 02:20:05
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@max_wedge: dude, I've checked the "Box Brownie Photography" site and they have some awesome pictures there!! thanks for passing on the link.
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Posted: 2006-07-28 02:42:06
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@max_wedge
thx for the links , amazing pictures there.
@xan K
Yes i think now that the w810 camera is good , aniway it depends who take the picture
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[ This Message was edited by: maryus51 on 2006-07-28 02:02 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-28 03:00:05
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On 2006-07-28 03:00:05, maryus51 wrote:
@max_wedge
thx for the links , amazing pictures there.
@xan K
Yes i think now that the w810 camera is good , aniway it depends who take the picture
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[ This Message was edited by: maryus51 on 2006-07-28 02:02 ]
Exacta Mundo. The most powerful chip that runs a camera is the human brain. So you have to use it a little more with a camera phone, that's part of the fun
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Posted: 2006-07-28 15:26:34
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Honestly max it's all pearls to pigs, but dammit it always feels good to know that someone says what has to be said! So what the heck, here's some more oyster-barf: There is no such thing as a subject. There is only the frame and everything within its four corners. But if one is hooked on zoom, this truth is lost.
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Posted: 2006-07-28 17:49:00
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