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nope it wouldnt have helped me at all, but it may help others, in the future...
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Posted: 2006-09-09 14:56:22
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On 2006-09-09 14:56:22, Luke-the-magic-man wrote:
nope it wouldnt have helped me at all, but it may help others, in the future...
agreed with Luke, it might help people in the future. I also wonder why so many people has been traded with hang_man. He only joined esato for over a month!
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Posted: 2006-09-09 15:49:50
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Yup 'cannabis' screwed me out of 70 large ones and didnt reply to pm's. I would like his i.p address just in case he has another username on here or re-registered on here.
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Posted: 2006-09-09 16:00:42
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I agree with a negative sales trade thread.
Short, sweet and simple
Date of transaction
Parties involved
Item, Amount, and failure
Link to the original transaction thread.
Let's keep it real simple. In this manner we can skim through quickly and be on the alert.
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Posted: 2006-09-09 16:02:36
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reo, thats a pretty good I dea, but I think all the wrong do-ers should be lited a-z in oen big post similar to the a-z with those catorgories filled in
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Posted: 2006-09-09 23:46:23
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Where should I start
Firstly I am afraid I don't plan to start or mainatin a second thread, I would like to keep things all in one place.
That's not only for my benefit but also for people who want to try and use the A-ZoTT.
Having multiple places to post and check feedback will only ever lead to more confusion and people being unsure about exactly what to do. While it may seem simple to experienced traders who are very familiar with the A-ZoTT it will be anything but simple to new members trying to figure out why everything is separated into different threads
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Secondly while it does sound like a good idea it would actually fall victim to the exact same problem when the new thread itself started to get lengthy and with the way things have been going round here lately that might not take as long as you think.
Being able to see the actual negative comments is something I have thought about a lot in the past and I have implemented some aids on the A-ZoTT over at se-nse where I have made the dates of each -ve reference a clickable link to the actual post.
I'm afraid that I wasn't planning to add this feature to the esato thread, I'm not sure if I can link to idividual posts here and also I don't really have the time to be going through and back tracking all of the -ves that have already been posted.
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Third thing is that I'd like to think that the A-ZoTT was a little better than "useless" but it should also not be regarded as any sort of guarantee. It is a guide and nothing more.
Also the thread does deal with the reasons behind a -ve reference and that is the very reason I enforced the rule that any -ve without a clear and valid reason will not be added. Of course this comes back to the issue of being able to find that post but they are there and you can track it down by date.
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Another feature I was actually thinking of adding a few weeks back is the chance for the person who has received a -ve reference to leave a comment in return which would appear or be linked to directly under the -ve reference in the A-Z list. I suppose this would be in a similar way to that on ebay.
The events of this week have shown a perfect example of where such a system would be useful but I must be honest I was again only planning this feature to be added to the se-nse A-ZoTT.
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Finally I know that there could be a better system of feedback here but remember that the A-ZoTT is not supported or run by esato and is a member-run thread and so any greater degree of integration into the site is pretty much out of the question.
Of course I do value your comments and suggestions but I do have better things to do than spend all of my time here maintaining the feedback system any more than I already do
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PS- It also seems that more than one of you who have posted in this very thread have some bad experiences to mention. Please do remember that your feedback is important and could very well stop someone else from getting burned in the future
Thanks for reading, hope this helps
Mik
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Posted: 2006-09-11 00:48:19
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Hows about the negative comment with BREIF details on the transaction are added under the username in ATZOTT? Only the new ones I guess, no point backtracking the thread to find old complaints.
Sorry if this was written in your post Mik, it got a bit long to read
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Posted: 2006-09-11 01:00:32
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well if we had the warning idea, it could also be implemented that they have NO access to the sales section anymore, that way we wouldn't need to constantly check up.
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Posted: 2006-09-11 03:19:03
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I also suggest that sellers are FORCED to have a pic of the item with their name or something.
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Posted: 2006-09-11 04:44:59
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The issue with Hang_man in my case was that i had begun to trust Esato so much i didnt think that anything like that would happen. I was wrong.
Also he was originally under another name.....
There should definitely be some sort of Negative Thread, it seems there are alot more cases coming out of the wood work....
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Posted: 2006-09-11 09:45:53
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