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the tytn has changed my opinion of wm5, aside from the bluetooth stack (silly microsoft) it works like a dream, fast/stable and I'm loving the integrated office, Microsoft voice command is a dream to use strangley wm5 is more stable than my desktop xp
besides you can easily customize it to look totally different colors/backgrounds/icons/ shortcuts/ groups/ task bars /tray bars..etc hell you can even remove everything and just put some icons and make it look like a symbian phone
something you can't do with symbian yet...
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[ This Message was edited by: darky on 2006-09-28 14:20 ]
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Posted: 2006-09-28 15:18:24
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through personal experience i found the windows to be more a PDA then a phone while Symbian is more of a phone then a PDA.
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Posted: 2006-09-28 15:25:04
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I have both: an iMate Jamin (Qtek 200) with WM5, P990i with UIQ3 and Nokia E70 with Symbian S60. I can resume my opinion in a few words: Windows Mobile is better to be used as PDA, and Symbian is better when used as phone. So, if that you need is a good calendar, a good contacts manager and the possibility of playing with your Word, Xcel... etc., and the use of the phone is less important your election has to be WM, but if that you want is an extensive use of the phone your best election is Symbian.
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Posted: 2006-09-28 15:29:43
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from all of above i prefer uiq 3.0 trust me its killer iv used windows mobile and i use to rate better than uiq 2.1 but it can never match uiq 3.0
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Posted: 2006-09-28 21:51:44
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"windows to be more a PDA then a phone while Symbian is more of a phone then a PDA"
I really find this statment weird, what exactly is a pda/phone phone/pda, if you want a smartphone wouldn't you want it to be able do more things ? that's the whole smart vs. dumb phone thing, how smart does a phone have to be to be considered a smartphone ?
Alot of people say using wm5 smart phone is harder than a normal phone I find that is not true, to dial all i have to do is press the call button and the contacts popup, choose the contact and call just like a phone,
too hard ? geta MS voice command, all you have to do is assign a button press the button and say call 'name' and it will call a contact (you don't even need to teach it /add tags to contacts it works out of the box), use his nickname and it will call him too, you can have it to confirm or not but I see it get's it right 99% of the time, does the contact have more than 1 phone ?
just say call 'name' mobile or call name home it will call that number, even if you just say his name it will ask you what line to call,
want to know the time, say what time is it and it will tell you , same for date, want to know your missed calls ? ask it what calls have I missed and it'll say them as well as time of call/ what number, same goes for messages email it can even read them out to you.
want to listen to music ? say play 'artist name' or 'genre' or album, or play all it will start playing it, you can even tell it to skip tracks/ go to previous increase volume ..etc
want to know your calendar appointments, just say what appointments do I have today, or tomorrow ..etc it will read them out for you.
all this by clicking one button.
want to send an email or mms ? just choose the contact and choose what you want to send, emails support attachments from any folder and of any type.
want to cut down on long distance calls ? skype works like a dream on the new phones.
messengers all work and msn messenger and hotmail comes integrated.
these are just a few things to list, and you can multitask a lot of your programs without performance issues, I usually listen to mp3' while surfing the web and have word open as well as my today plugins/ other running programs with no performance issues.
I hate microsoft but if they can get their desktop as stable and efficient as the mobile phone they can change their stupid image.
Give me one uiq or s60/70/90 phone that can do half of that and I'm game.
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[ This Message was edited by: darky on 2006-09-28 23:45 ]
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Posted: 2006-09-29 00:43:25
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WM has one very good feature in comparison with Symbian, namely it is much more configurable. The system registry allows a lot of tampering with the settings.
Secondly, the themes for WM are easier to make and there are more options to change.
The rest is quite similar to me.
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Posted: 2006-09-29 01:44:49
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I don't know why you would find my statement weird? some devices are better then others at doing certain things. Both the Windows device and Symbian device might fall under the category of a smart device but they don't have to be equally adept at handling the same functionalities. You could have two SUVs for example and both don't have to equally good at off road and on road performance. You would probably find that while one is good at doing one of the mentioned, the other is better at the same thing and yet both are SUVs.
As far as the range and depth of software titles is concerned the windows device wins hands down. Integration with Outlook, word files, media player and etc is amazing. I found the PDA functionality of the device to be amazing. Note symbian is not dumb but windows is just better at this.
However when it comes to phone functionality I found the Symbian to be better then the Windows. Windows devices are phones but Symbian devices are just better phones.
For starters my Jam had to be reset 5 times a day on average. Now I know the P990 is buggy but i have yet to face such a situation where the device hangs while just lying in my pocket or desk.
Voice dialling requires additional software? Why would i spend more when i've already shelved out plenty to expect this feature to be built in? Bluetooth stack was by Microsoft (need i say more) .
The sound seemed as if it's coming from a tin can, It was really shrill and would actually hurt my ear.
In the end I got so fed up with it, I lost close $200 in value when i exchanged it for the P910.
This is of course my personal opinion and you don't have to subscribe to it, but i still stand by it. Now had i not really used a windows device it would've been something else but unfortunately i've paid my dues.
[ This Message was edited by: adhussain on 2006-09-30 10:19 ]
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Posted: 2006-09-29 12:43:02
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with Microsoft huge resources behind wm, it has great potential. WM5 is already a great improvement over the previous version.
Symbian on the other hand is moving much slower perhaps due to lack of strong backing from big players.
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Posted: 2006-09-29 12:58:57
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I had the Imate Jam (Win Mobile) and moved to the M600i which IMO is far better. Especially so with last two firmwares on M600i. Its night and day.
My M600i is more stable and more important, the phone part is of FAR better audio quality, while there is no dropoff in the PDA capability as the M600I can also run any 3rd party software and has a touch screen.]
Where M600i is lagging is that UIQ 3 operating system does not have as many choices of software but that is because it is new. But with the release of the W950 that Walkman phone will change as it will present software makers with a large mass market user base and the software choices will skyrocket.
Bear in mind that Windows mobile 5 RETAINS many of the faults of WM2003 such as the bug which makes it not wake up on alarms, memory cleanup (google clearnotify) and the poor use of touchscreen where larger touch areas could have been used in interfaces.
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Posted: 2006-09-29 21:31:09
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Symbian is generaly as stable as a rock,Windows is windows no matter how you package it. I hated the way my IPAQ used to mess about my P900 and P910i were rock solid and never missed a beat so much so that I refuse to trust my P990i as a business tool. I wonder perhaps is UIQ3a windows derivative
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P910i P900 T610 T68i all great phones Please Hurry Up P990!
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2006-09-29 21:37 ]
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Posted: 2006-09-29 22:36:09
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