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I never said it wouldn't work did i? and what is the big deal calling it a Network are you just trying to have an argument for no good reason or purposely trying to show how clever you think you are? Which by the way you are not doing a very good job of either IMO, still no answer as to why all these companies have developed g & n which according to you has no advantage.
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Posted: 2007-06-28 14:03:56
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On 2007-06-28 13:53:06, Dogmann wrote:
@Boinng
What are you talking about? as if what you say is true why would companies produce the faster protocols and why would anyone bother upgrading as it would be pointless. Please quantify your statement as to me it's just a ridiculous thing to say and makes no sense.
I'm sorry if you're having difficulty understanding what I've written, let me explain each sentence for you in more detail:
Virtually any router will happily support b
What I mean here is that virtually any wireless router will support the wireless "b" standard. In fact, more routers support b than g or n, since it's been around longer and is built into more devices, although g is of course very common now too. N is still technically in draft form as a standard, so support for this is patchy or non-existant.
- it's a complete non-issue.
By "non-issue" I mean that making a big point about the fact a mobile phone uses "b" rather than "g" to connect wireless is silly and irrelevant. As we've established, support for "b" is almost universal. What's more, at the sort of speeds available for internet connection, there is literally no advantage whatsoever in using a higher standard.
I use a cheap b card in my laptop for internet use at home
The wireless card I use in my laptop for internet use at home complies only with the "b" standard. It was cheap.
it makes absolutely no difference to internet speeds
As discussed, "b" is still well above the speed of my (or anyone's) broadband connection.
(which are all well below b anyway).
As discussed, "b" is still WELL ABOVE THE SPEED OF ANYONE'S BROADBAND CONNECTION!
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Posted: 2007-06-28 14:07:50
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loool
calm down peeps, i never expected this to be a huge massive heated debate.
the reason i asked is cos i was on the S/E site and it has no mention of wifi in the specs.
then again i could have missed it as i was in work doing an 11 hour night shift and it was about3/4 in the morning.
cheers for the info, i have a wrt54gs running dd-wrt f/w and i know its does b/g @ 250mW (the uk legal limit is 25mW i think). If S/E decide to keep the wifi feature then i will defo get one, as long as it doesnt suk like the W950.
peace out peeps, and ta again.
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Posted: 2007-06-28 14:58:06
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On 2007-06-28 13:57:37, Boinng wrote:
@Dogmann - I have a wireless router but I don't have a network as such, just two PC's which independently connect to the internet via the router. They don't even see each other. One has a G card, one has B, both connect perfectly well to the same router. So will the P1, when I get that...
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-06-28 13:15 ]
it's still a network as the two computers are connected together via the router. they might not be able to 'see' eachother as you said. but that's more down to the windows networking settings etc.
they are still on the same network
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Posted: 2007-06-28 15:24:46
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On 2007-06-28 15:24:46, jung wrote:
On 2007-06-28 13:57:37, Boinng wrote:
@Dogmann - I have a wireless router but I don't have a network as such, just two PC's which independently connect to the internet via the router. They don't even see each other. One has a G card, one has B, both connect perfectly well to the same router. So will the P1, when I get that...
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-06-28 13:15 ]
it's still a network as the two computers are connected together via the router. they might not be able to 'see' eachother as you said. but that's more down to the windows networking settings etc.
they are still on the same network
well that means we are all on the same network right now. we're all connecting to the esato server! why dont we call it..... the internet!
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Posted: 2007-06-28 15:26:34
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On 2007-06-28 15:24:46, jung wrote:
it's still a network as the two computers are connected together via the router. they might not be able to 'see' eachother as you said. but that's more down to the windows networking settings etc.
they are still on the same network
I think batesie has it about right!
We can argue definitions, but by your reckoning my two computers are "networked", and that's simply not the case. They co-exist through a connection to the same router, but they aren't connected to each other in any meaningful sense.
This may well be down to Windows Networking Settings, but then so is any (Windows) network! There's more to a network than simply the physical connection itself, whether that's by wire or wireless...
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-06-28 14:40 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-28 15:35:16
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On 2007-06-28 15:26:34, batesie wrote:
On 2007-06-28 15:24:46, jung wrote:
On 2007-06-28 13:57:37, Boinng wrote:
@Dogmann - I have a wireless router but I don't have a network as such, just two PC's which independently connect to the internet via the router. They don't even see each other. One has a G card, one has B, both connect perfectly well to the same router. So will the P1, when I get that...
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-06-28 13:15 ]
it's still a network as the two computers are connected together via the router. they might not be able to 'see' eachother as you said. but that's more down to the windows networking settings etc.
they are still on the same network
well that means we are all on the same network right now. we're all connecting to the esato server! why dont we call it..... the internet!
i was just helping, not being pedantic. of course if that's the route we're going to take.
they are on the same network, are are not, as we are 'connected' via a series of interconnected networks (hence the name internet)
your two pc's are in the same network, because they both connect to the same router, and henceforth will be in the same ip address subnetwork.
the function of a router is to route traffic from one network to another.
besides, if we were to be overtly pedantic then it's not actually the router that you are connecting to, it's a wireless access point built into the router.
jesus, remind me how obtuse people can be next time i offer a bit of advice! haha.
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Posted: 2007-06-28 16:12:22
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