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Look, I know you're doing this for free, but you don't have to get abusive. It also doesn't cost me anything to vent my anger at purchasing an expensive phone and finding it taking 2 days of my precious time fixing a simple PIM application that should work off the bat on a production phone. Just as it doesn't cost you anything to ignore my posts....(So just why are you getting riled anyway?)

Anyway, for the record, I find AquaCalendar to be a good if expensive solution (at USD 25, or 5% of the cost of the phone).

Thanks for your detailed analysis, in any case. My test bed: A master reset followed by a PC Sync of a working Outlook database (whatever it may contain, multiple notes et al, it is up and running). The built-in Calendar application on the P1i croaks. So much for the SE test engineers.
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Posted: 2007-11-21 14:13:34
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Nipsen, if you don't mind me saying (and I expect you will) that's a pretty crummy attitude you have there. Yes we're all doing it for free, so is the OP - that's because this is just an internet forum, not a service centre, and nobody's pretending otherwise. You think you could charge for your advice??

If you don't like the post or how it's phrased, you don't have to reply to it.

As it happens, I think your post just highlights the fact that there's obviously something pretty wrong in either the P1 or its PC Suite. There's no way anybody should be ending up with a corrupted calendar database on their phone after an apparently successful sync (and I'm assuming the OP would have mentioned if the PC suite had thrown up any errors).

Having said that, it's funny how Aquacalendar can work just fine with this "corrupted database", but not the inbuilt app...

[ This Message was edited by: boinng on 2007-11-21 13:36 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-21 14:21:52
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Thanks, Boinng. Indeed, the Outlook database is fine, and the PC Sync completed without errors, needless to say.

If it's not the number of entries, whatever the problem is, I'm not going to delve further. AquaCalendar is a worthy Calendar application in any case, and DreamConnect is a worthy Contacts application. Not much use using the native PIM in the P1i, IMHO, unlike the P900 where it was robust and a joy to use.


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Posted: 2007-11-21 14:57:34
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@Nipsen

LOL, calm down dude, its not like were talking about wlan here!

@Anil Gidwani

The built in calendar app is perfectly usable, and quite capable of handling large numbers of entries, as it was on the p900. The issue here is how its getting presented from outlook - its a notoriously fickle piece of software I had nothing but problems syncing my p910 with it. I gave up in the end, as i have said before, I had entries loosing information, entries getting fields swapped, all sorts of issues. Given your level of usage - i still think 1500 entries is alot - have you considered using the active sync client instead of the pc suite?
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Posted: 2007-11-21 15:14:00
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No, that didn't really cross my mind. The key here was contributing mutually to the board to find solutions. And since I'm using the calendar app, I would be very happy to figure out if there is a bug in the program, or a weakness of some sort. And I simply said that the posts so far have been very unhelpful in that way.

Oh, grow up.

Exactly. So again, we're looking for what actually causes this problem, and how to avoid it until a fix turns up. Because apparently it's a bug in the calendar app that kicks in even though the sync is logged as successful. ..My first thought was that it was the sync- program or the pc- suite (since the outlook- sync reads and writes to the database, not to the phone's parser, like it would if you imported a calendar- file). So a way to test that might be to export the calendar, copy it manually to the phone, and then open it there.

And if that doesn't work, we should at least have pinpointed that we have a serious bug in the phone's calendar- app (and not in the sync- software).

No, it could be something as simple as that it doesn't read particular fields in the calendar when it's run the first time. Or doesn't exit on critical read- errors, and has a more intelligent way to rescue the app after an error.



True. Sorry about that.

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Posted: 2007-11-21 15:22:59
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Hmm. I think maybe you need to have a think about that.

For the record, any of the various germs of an explanation you've given for this may well be correct, but they all point to the fact that this isn't something any of us can fix ourselves. It's some form of incompatibility between Outlook and the P1 (possibly via its PC Suite software) that simply shouldn't exist, and the only people that have the power to make it right is SE. Is it the OP's fault that (possibly) one of his calendar entries is upsetting the process that SE have designed? Of course not. Is it the OP's job to beta-test any of this for SE? Emphatically not. What more is there to say?
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Posted: 2007-11-21 16:51:50
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In Nipsens defense, I believe he was trying to point out that with proper details and testing we can confirm a but in the calendar app and report it properly to SE.

I know that Anil Gidwani (who started the thread) was getting understandably frustrated with whole process causing his calendar to crash, when undeniably it shouldn't.

HOWEVER everyone here needs to calm down, its only a phone PPL

@Anil Gidwani
Just out of interest, now that you can open your calendar DB again, does the built in calendar still bomb out? Or has opening it into AquaCal fixed it?
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Posted: 2007-11-21 20:10:01
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An interesting question, @pnf.

To test out your hunch, I just closed down AquaCalendar, which has worked flawlessly for a day, and started up Calendar. Lo and behold, it now opens up correctly. Maybe AquaCalendar does something to the database flags or soe sort of internal consistency setting which now allows Calendar to use it.

Anyway, it is premature to say that Calendar now works. It would have to be tested further before any definite conclusions can be drawn.

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Posted: 2007-11-22 02:59:04
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*runs around flapping arms* "if you don't like the tone and the way people talk, just ignore the post" *thhhbblltttttth*

No, I agree completely. It should work out of the box, and it's a serious problem when it doesn't. And in this case, it obviously says something about what sort of testing SE did on their pc- suite, and how flimsy their quality control is on that not very well written piece of software. I could add the problems with connecting the phone to that, or the curious implementation of the mRouter software, as well as the repeatedly failing backups, and the completing backups that nevertheless cause problems. Something that is all a good example of bad communication between the various parts of the SE developer team, and not to mention sloppy an amateurish mistakes.

Anyway. Thank you for not posting the worst rants in the bug- thread, and at least being unhelpful elsewhere.
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Posted: 2007-11-22 03:26:03
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Now that IS interesting. From previous experience I knew that aquacal was just a new front end for the built in symbian calender api, but this definitely points to a bug in the built in Calendar.

If this is a wholly re-producible bug then we should try and work out whats going on. Short of sending your whole calendar to SE its not gonna be much help at the mo.
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Posted: 2007-11-22 10:46:56
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