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my thoughts are there chrismas presents unless there thousand have unlocked and bought a o2 simplicity sim or online pay and go or used existing o2 sim.
using a unlocked iphone on o2 pay and go i was still able to use cloud for free but i assume that will eventually they will patch it so only the mac/imei registered to a iphone tariff work.
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Posted: 2007-11-27 16:48:55
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Another problem is the Mk1 buyers will be pee'd off if a more advanced second version appears just weeks into their own contracts, as I doubt the Mk2 will fail to appear before the 1st 18 months are through.
I'd be peeved off anyway. If Apple want to make an impact then they should drop the price of the 1st version, pay a dividend to the initial buyers and rush out a more capable version ASAP.
Its quite obvious that a lot of people didn't fall for the hype the way our American friends did. Lots of people were interested until they were presented with the price.
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Posted: 2007-11-27 16:54:04
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Exactly.. I think this is where Apple's inexperience shows through. The mobile market here is very mature and consumers generally are very demanding, they expect a great phone at a great price (generally one beginning with "F") and they expect it to be the newest thing on the block, too. The Iphone's glitter is already fading IMO; it's been overexposed to some extent and there are already newer, more interesting looking models filtering through. There's also the certainty that Apple are going to replace the Mk1 model themselves soon enough, which makes the current price tag even more outlandish.
Mobile Phones aren't like Ipods, there's a great deal more competition and the customers are quite cut-throat, they won't pay through the nose to have model A if model B is both newer, cleverer, and cheaper. The fact that model A has an Apple logo isn't enough...
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Posted: 2007-11-27 17:04:35
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I figured this might happen. The UK aren't as dumb as our US counterparts
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Posted: 2007-11-27 19:21:44
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I might consider paying what they want for the iphone if it had a better camera, video recording, 3g and gps. Those extras would help towards the cost.
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Posted: 2007-11-27 19:29:54
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What a surprise, who could possibly have expected this
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One reason I will not be getting an iPhone, is if the phone is not subsidized (as many claim and probably true if you look at the price of an iPod touch Vs an iPhone), then why is it locked + only available on 18 month contract?
For me it is simple:
1) Buy a phone SIM free/unlocked. This means I pay full price (no subsidy), but have full freedom to choose operator, plans, change SIMs, change networks etc.
2) Buy a SIM locked phone. This means I am tied to a specific operator + plan. However I get a subsidy so that the cost of the phone is low or even zero. Which is OK for me, after all the operator has in effect paid for the phone.
But the iPhone model is completely new. No subsidy, so I pay full price for the phone. However the iPhone is SIM locked, so I am tied to a a specific operator + plan, with no freedom to change networks.
How can they seriously expect me to buy into that ? If I pay full price for the iPhone, are they saying I still do not own it and I am not allowed to use it as I want to?
It seems I am not alone in this and the rest of the population is equally unimpressed with this "wonderful deal"
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/Mike B.
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Posted: 2007-11-27 19:34:56
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The iPhone IS subsidised, but not by the operator as has been the case up until now - but by the manufacturer i.e. Apple.
Apple takes a percentage of the monthly contract fee, which pays the subsidy. Which is why they're so keen to keep the phones locked and you on the contract for 18 months.
O2 don't lock the phones, nor have the ability to unlock them - Apple do. As can now be seen in Germany, it is Apple who controls the SIM lock via iTunes. They have the ability to unlock the phone from Steve's office in Cupertino.
So, it's correct that there is no normal network subsidy - but there is a manufacturer subsidy.
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Posted: 2007-11-27 22:39:29
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go figure this though if the Nokia N95-2 was £269.99 aswell as the iPhone which one would sell like a way more
iPhone is just so last year over here the price is too much,
I bet the P990i is better and even that costs less
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Posted: 2007-11-28 01:28:54
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26,500 phones is not actually too bad for 2 weeks of sales. I doubt there are many other phones that have sold as many in the same time. The real figures are from now on, now that the hype has died down and the people that had to get one have bought it.
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Posted: 2007-11-28 01:33:38
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