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Thanx Boba
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Posted: 2008-01-05 17:49:53
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Hi all

I also believe there is now at last a 3G BB as well is there not?

@Nanu

Whilst i get you are now a big fan i have looked at BB's previously but think your claim of it being better at Multimedia than N95 is a little beyond the realms of reality, as Multimedia is not exactly a BB's strong point and neither should it be really.

@all

When it comes to being a business devcie personally i think there is nothing that can hold a light to a BB. Although there are lots of devcies that are good BB with it's built in Security features and E-Mail options and famous BB pin services it really is the corporates devcie of choice and for good reason to. I also think being master of some is better than being jack of all and BB's do seem to also be constantly improving. Like Nanu all of this is just MO so please don't flame me if i have got something wrong a simple correction will suffice.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-01-05 22:05 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-05 18:18:13
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@Dogmann

Although it my statement does seem a little far fetched I would love for you to have a play with my Curve to see just how far they have come with Media, I hope you would be pleasantly surprised! but as you say it isn't as dedicated as the N95!

Also in the link Boba kindly provided there is a paragraph detailing exactly why 3G hasn't been fully implemented across the board as of yet!




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Posted: 2008-01-05 18:25:28
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yeah you don't want a touch screen on a BB... would take away form the whole thing, a BB keypad is brill, often after a week or so can be used as touch type.

Since my BB has been in for repair, I've used a K850i, P1i, G600, K810i and nothing comes remotely close to my curve. I did also have an 8120 but couldn't get used to suretype and a few other issues with it I couldn't live with, but as wiki says, 3G in a BB offers no advantages whatsoever, in fact it offers disadvantages, as stated battery life takes a hammering as done data transfer, with the 8120 RIM have made a dual mode device, which is a first, since with GPRS and EDGE, when on a call your data connection gets held, while connected to WIFI your data connection keeps going. I can see that RIM are going to have to release a 3G device soon, but it's going to take some hefty service books to get it to do what consumers will want it to.

But on the whole BBs are getting more and more popular as time goes by and for a damn good reason, yes, they are not cutting edge technology, but they don't need to be.

and the point about BBs being for business use only.. not true, neither I, Miss C, Tmag and afaik nanu use Bbs for business use, it's a great social tool; nanu, Miss C, Tmag and I can have a big ol' conversation on BB messenger not costing anyone a penny, pics, videos, sounds, address book entries, calender entries and bookmarks can be sent through messenger.....

also, wireless syncing, what else on this planet offers that? other than MS Exchange Server (that was set up to compete with BB)

and there of those of you that say, my N95 will check for emails every 5 mins if I want it to and no email I get isn't that important that it can't wait 5 mins, but until you've used a BB you really don't know, unlike an N95, every time you connect you rack up data, a BB is constantly connected, in an idle state, just waiting for some activity, I don't know the technical know how about BB (I'm working on it mind) so have yet to work out how it all works, It seems that the RIM server is just a big forwarding system and will push the email to your phone...but it really is a different world...

also.. threaded messaging.... iPhone lied when they said you haven't seen it before.. the first BB I got did it.. the 7290 and has done since then, I don't know if it has always done it but I guess so...

also, you have never seen an address book like on a BB, My Mac address book can't always cope with the info that's on my BB, but likewise, on windoze, everything you have in Outlook will be on your BB, unlike your N95 that will only hold 5/6 fields per entry.

another nice feature I like about BB is the auto delete, after a specified date, 30, 60, 90 days or never SMS, MMS and Email will be deleted, so you should in theory never run out of space, of course you can keep emails for longer, just mark as keep and it stays....

but all in all, BB is the way forward and as Lipton say:

"Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it"
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Posted: 2008-01-05 22:54:17
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@Fatreg

Sorry but some of your assumptions are incorrect firstly lets remember the N95 is a bad example as is a Multimedia smart phone first and foremost but have you never heard of SyncML with which i can sync with many free online services that will keep my Calender Contacts Notes and E-Mails should i want or need it.

Also i am now using Seven Always on E-Mail that is proper push E-Mail that works with many ISP's including Hot Mail/MSN, Yahoo and many others with only the need to enter my user name and password for set up. I can also configure it for both Workday's and Weekends and what hours it should work between and on set up can even choose which connections it should use or not use for that matter. This is currently free as i joined the Beta program but i am so impressed with it that i am going to be happy to pay for it when that becomes necessary.

As for threaded SMS whilst some may like this Nokia have now realeased SMS Conversations that does just this and is free although personally i just don't do SMS never have and doubt i ever will as i just hate SMS.

But as always what i like and is good for me may not be for anyone else one day i may get round to trying out a Blackberry but so far none has attracted me enough to do so yet. As i have said i do appreciate what the Blackberry's can do and certainly don't underestimate then at all not by a long way but there just not a devcie for me currently is all i am saying. Also there not nick named Crackberrys for no reason as once you go Blackberry people rarely go back to another devcie is what i have heard.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-01-05 22:28 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-05 23:21:08
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yeah I appreciate they are not everyones cup of tea, but I have yet to meet someone that has had one and not liked it....

but my point is, yeah your N95 can do all that with added SW but my BB does it all straight out of the box.. it's the windows Vs mac debate if you will... one offers the world to you via optional SW, the other offers what you will use straight out of the box and it's that that I like, I don't want to have to research for the next app that is going to do what I want it to, I'd rather it just did it!

maybe one day you will try a BB and like it (I can hope can't I?)

Now I don't want to make this a flaming war, but Nokia IMHO have just reinvented the wheel everytime, I remember the 7650, Nokias "first" smartphone, if you discount the 9100, 9110i and 9210... and since then all they have done is update as time has gone on, I've seen nothing ground breaking from them, yes, a 5mp, 8gb, wifi, GPS enabled phone is miles away from a VGA, BT phone but it's all based on the same thing, even the OS has been through updates yet is still S60, while I love the fact, you can pick up a 7650 use it, put it down, pick up an N95 and it works the same way, it annoys me that Nokia can't do something different.

but yeah, you can't please everyone all the time.......
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Posted: 2008-01-05 23:35:54
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The Blackberry should I - shouldn't I debate will go on. People will hate them or love them.

Its hard to understand how and why they have such an impact.

Misquote by Reggie, i actually use my for both work and pleasure and it works very well. So well infact that i have started my own Blackberry Training Company (Sorry for the plug).

One of the main problems that lies within the PDA/Mobile industry is the preception about Blackberries and why and how and more importantly who should use them.

As people have pointed out - orginally based at the Business Markets, now more and more people are using a BB to stay in touch. I cant remember when i last sent a text - except to Reggie whilst he gets a new BB but its because everything is done by email or messenger these days. I sent all sorts of stuff through my BB.

The upside of BB is that its always on. No connecting and no high bills. (Most BB Data Unlimited plans come in under £15 - £20) and i use about 50mb of Data a month (high for BB) but i know its going to work.

The downside is that you do need a Data plan activated for BB to have it work, but thats neither here nor there.

Also they are addictive...no joke. (Phantom vibrations, let me just check it hasnt just received something - joke for the BB users)


As for the handset, RIM have recently developed more "Consumer" friendly handsets like the Pearl, Curve and with the new 89XX series and the 9XXX Series, they will again compete.

As for 3G BB. There is an older 8707g model arounf (based on the 87XX series) but works only in certain parts of the world. Having said that, do you really need 3G with the capabilities of what can be done a BB.

Its a matter or preference, and i do challenge anyone to actually try using one for a while. Afterall, you are all happy to try every other phone on the market and sell it on....

Why not give this a try...

p.s. My Curve also has spell check...so apologies for my spelling...


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[ This Message was edited by: tmagberry on 2008-01-07 12:55 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-07 13:53:21
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And for me! I use the Curve for Business purposes as it is my Business phone and I have an N95 for personal, but I would quite happily have a Curve for personal but Nobody needs 2 active BlackBerrys!!
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Posted: 2008-01-07 16:56:06
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Hi Ftareg,

Well that's not quite true any more as i have traded my beloved N95 8gb for an E90 once more so have a built in qwerty and the largest internal screen ever. As for BB's not even being 3G well as i said i do believe there is now a 3G BB. But for Web Browsing and Multimedia downloading or steaming even 3G is pedestrian HSDPA is where it is at with 3.6mbps rising to 7.2mbps anytime soon. Compare that to EDGE or 3G and you are talking tortoise and the Hare.

Maybe BB's are not quite so Business focused now a days but it is still the vast majority of users but again don't get me wrong i do appreciate what a BB can do and do think they are great devcies but just not for me is all.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-01-07 21:45 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-07 17:13:24
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