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On 2008-02-13 16:42:33, Karvel wrote:
. . . But looking at the specs it seems the k810i has the bigger sensor and has a Xeon flash . . .
Where did you find phone specs that included sensor size?
I would assume that all SE 3 MP camera phones use the same Sony sensor (
IMX018?) while the actual difference lie in the driver and perhaps lens.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 07:42:11
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the k800i uses a sony sensor, the k770 uses a Samsung 1200-0112 sensor,
thats not noise reduction that does that to the k800i pics it's a combination of compression and the dam bilinear filter which is on all the time even when zoom isn't being used.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 12:23:54
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hi Amras...
u using the default camera driver or the mod one?
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Posted: 2008-02-14 15:41:15
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@number1
how bilinear filter will work when there is no zoom? and why it's on all the time?
and i think in the above pic(K800), sharpness is a bit high. and you know this isn't related to compression.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 16:06:32
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i dunno why but it is on all the time in the k800i see the affect
http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/Bilinear_Filtering
now look at the k800i pics and compear them, you can clearly see it's the bilnear filter with a combination of the k800i's awful whitebalance.
see here some1 compared the oringal camdriver of the k800i with the whitebalance on, then my k800i camdriver with the whitebalance off
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161159&start=225
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Posted: 2008-02-14 16:19:32
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i already saw that page, but my question is how bilinear filter will work when there is no zoom. bilinear filter is for when we haven't enough data(enlargement) or when we have too much data(reduction). but for 1:1 ... i can't understand how it will work!!
i think it's combination of sharpness, whitebalance and poor sensor(that is the best till now!!)
[ This Message was edited by: sadeghi85 on 2008-02-14 15:37 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-14 16:28:10
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I can get the k770i and the k810i for the same price.. really the only discerning factor for me is the quality of the camera. I was all ready to go and purchase the k810i until I read on here that the k770i camera was better in places.
[ This Message was edited by: Karvel on 2008-02-14 16:20 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-14 17:14:02
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if cam quality is important for you, go for K810i.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 17:20:21
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This page is a somewhat mixed-up listing. In some cases it lists part numbers for camera modules (such as KNC20115 for the module in the K750/W800/W810) while for other phones it lists the sensor chip types.
On 2008-02-14 12:23:54, number1 wrote:
the k800i uses a sony sensor, the k770 uses a Samsung 1200-0112 sensor,
thats not noise reduction that does that to the k800i pics it's a combination of compression and the dam bilinear filter which is on all the time even when zoom isn't being used.
Interesting that the K770, using a non-Sony camera, produces what a lot of people feel are better photos. That's probably something SE would not be beating their chest over... I wonder why SE chose a camera from another source? Could it have been price or quality?
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Posted: 2008-02-14 17:34:59
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se normally use there own sensors in high-end phones, mid-end phones normally have samsung or OmniVision sensors, low-end normally have micron sensor. the k810i has a better sensor than the k770i but the k770 has a better driver and the firmware seems to process that pics better, the k770i has better more real colours because the whitebalance is turned off, i dunno why the k770 takes sharper pics i'm sure that has something to do with the post-processing in the firmware.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 18:36:57
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