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This is a UIQ board, i have a UIQ phone...guess what i like most???


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Posted: 2008-05-19 19:14:27
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UIQ is the power user's delight and in that arena trounces S60.

S60 is more basic and so much easier for the non-power users. For example, E90 owners who have used the older S80-powered commies readilly testify that S60 sorts of cripples the E90's real potentials.

As a power user, I vote for UIQ, and if I can't finda suitable UIQ device, I'll probably look up Windows Mobile first before I consider S60.

This does not in anyway mean that S60 is inferior. I prefer to say that S60 is just for a different market segment than UIQ, S80, and WM are - the mass market.
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Posted: 2008-05-19 19:49:00
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UIQ all the way. S60 is too much simple for my taste.
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Posted: 2008-05-19 21:19:40
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Ditto! ...and that's why I'm 99.9% on my way to either S60 or Windows (scary as the thought is) unless Moto brings me back to UIQ. I think SE screwed up a very powerful os and they don't even know how to get themselves out of this terrible mess.
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Posted: 2008-05-19 21:30:23
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UIQ - I could never get along with S60... just a personal preference... hoping WM7 will be nice though, then I might consider the switch from UIQ

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Posted: 2008-05-19 21:37:19
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What do you mean by simple? menu's, navigation, or the apps are too simple? Is everyone here talking of the past year with S60 3rd Edition?

THey have more apps than UIQ, and UIQ development team at Motorola & SE SHOULD take note! S60 will be a HUGE main competition for UIQ by end of year with a touch interface, and I think many ppl here, although they prefer UIQ to S60, they may change their mind if apps unique to UIQ get ported to S60 and a better hardware is available. Its time for SE to fully use UIQ3 in more of their lineup; as Microsoft said they're planning HUGE market rise by 2010! thats less than 2yrs. THey have the wide range of devices and manufacturers, the applications, both smartphone & touchscreen, but whent eh OS becomes more efficient and user friendly - plus getting rid of those horrible standard OS icons - then I think Symbian (S60 or UIQ) may not be so strong in Europe, with only Android being the competition within 5yrs on the consumer market.
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Posted: 2008-05-20 01:28:28
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It is actually true that S60 is the simpler interface of the two - in part responsible for it being more accepted by non-power users. And that's a good thing.

Yet, its this same simplicity that makes it an inadequate interface for power users. Compare calendar on S60 with calendar on UIQ, for example. Or document editing, Or email.

One is significantly more comprehensive than the other, and by extension making the other easier to use for the average Joe than one.

I'm not sure that s60 will change much just because touchscreen functionality will be added. Afterall the coming S60 modification is being designed to be compatible with existing software on the platform.

It seems more like two different user interfaces with some opposing strengths and weaknesses.

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[ This Message was edited by: oluyom on 2008-05-20 03:44 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-20 04:39:00
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Leave the fact that S60 has way larger 3rd party apps and better developer support than UIQ then Technicality(software features, programmability) wise UIQ wins. The touchscreen + Keyboard/keypad combo is the biggest advantage of it phones like P990, P1, W960, G900 perfectly shows how capable 9.1 UIQ is for many things. i can't even believe that a 3 year old platform can be integrated with Flash Lite 3.0(which is seen on S60 3.1 and above), Touch AF, pre-installed torch app, Media manager software, iphone/W960 style music player and is compatible with a GPS accessory.
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Posted: 2008-05-20 05:09:03
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Hi all,

I really wonder just when some here last used an S60 3rd Edition device if they ever have from the comments made. UIQ was my OS of choice right up till the M600 and since then there is not one UIQ device i can choose till now as they are all slow and using outdated hardware with insufficient support for new tech. There is currently no UIQ smart phone from SE that has HSDPA, although strangely enough there is from Moto and they use a much more powerful processor to.

As none have HSDPA and even now by comparison they are all slow, all the apps open fast and are useable quickly on S60 and i really wouldn't say the UIQ equivalents are better either even once you can use them.

But like any smart phone the ability to add 3rd party apps so the user can have have his device as he likes is both plentiful and reasonably cheap.

I use Seven for push E-Mail but previously used the built in E-Mail and it works very well, i also use Handy Calender as the built in Pim app is quite basic but it really isn't that different to the one found on UIQ.

I have no need for a 3rd party Web browser as the built Safari based browser is quite simply one of the best and has Flash Lite 3.0 support. I have no need to install a 3rd party media player as Real Player plays more than just 3Gp and handles H.264 perfectly.

S60 has all the the most up to date hardware and tech again something UIQ is missing, i still believe UIQ could be much better if not the best OS, but currently it is held back and crippled by a lack of decent hardware from SE.

To those of you who think S60 is to simple all i can say is you must be masochists and enjoy the illogical access to menu's and apps that UIQ brings and enjoy the delays as it gives you time to work out what you need to do next when the app responds.

What is worse is that soon the only real advantage UIQ offered for those that want or need a Touch screen will also be gone. There are just so many more devices available now that offer better spec's and performance for our money and SE/UIQ have lost the high ground.

Over the last couple of years so many of the once SE/UIQ faithful have gone else where for their devices and it will be hard for SE/UIQ to win them back.

Now if they rumors of the P5 spec's are true still the same old 208mhz processor and still no HSDPA late 2008 that really will not help SE/UIQ win anyone back IMO.

We always hear of these great new devices with a new OS and powerful processors but just when will we see them? and more importantly be able to buy them.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-20 07:59 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-20 08:47:13
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Marc, as usual you're arguing about hardware rather than the actual user interface. In pure hardware terms the current range of S60 devices top trumps SE's efforts - lack of HSDPA etc - but that has nothing to do with S60 vs. UIQ as a means of interacting with the phone. Remember that both of these are merely interfaces, the underlying OS is the same and can support all the same hardware.

UIQ has an obvious advantage over S60 as an interface, with the option of touchscreen support, and will always have a dedicated user base in that regard. It gives an added dimension of control that S60 simply can't mimic - at least not yet. S60's transition to touch support is unproven, and likely to be beset by heritage issues, while UIQ's is inbuilt from the ground up.

S60, as an interface, barely improves upon S40 or the other keyboard-driven ancestors of both systems. It's ancient, and looking ever more so in the post-Iphone era. Nokia know this of course, which is why they're maxxing out the hardware as much as they can to compensate, and working on Touch support for the next generation at the same time.

The S60 you champion is well past it's best before, and likely to start fading out quite soon.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-05-20 13:29 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-20 14:21:27
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