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I can't agree with this bit really -
The P900 wasn't too different from its predecessor, although the design was much more refined. The P910 can be called a breakthrough though, as it had a superior function set.
I think in reality, the P910 was actually far too similar to the P900, while the P900 was little more than a P800 in a new suit. What really happened here, for three years, was that SE rested on its laurels with the UIQ2 range, or at least didn't put sufficient resources into developing them - they simply marketed almost exactly the same hardware, for three years, solely as a "niche" high-end device.
The breakthrough in the UIQ line was that first handset - the P800. The P910's "superior function set" amounted to nothing that the P800 or P900 couldn't also do, with the right software added, because they were all essentially the same phone.
A truly successful series would have built much more quickly and more substantially on that P800 platform back in 2003-04 when it was a success and so unlike anything else on the market at the time. They could have taken that original technology and done an Iphone with it, pushing that stable touch-based UI to a much wider audience, years before Apple even dreamt of it. Instead the line simply stagnated, to be replaced by an underdeveloped and unstable UIQ3 that completely threw away the market UIQ2 had built up, with no software compatibility, little UI commonality, and very poor implementation on the P990 etc. It was a complete mess from the P990 onwards, and personally I really don't mourn UIQ3 at all.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-10-03 14:16 ]
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Posted: 2008-10-03 15:14:05
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read something here:
Nokia has recently bought out Symbian and intends to make it an open source platform in order to better compete against current mobile OS. It’s surprising to see Russell Beattie, Strategic Technology Marketing Manager, Nokia Corporation, write on his personal journal that “Me personally, however, I gave up on Symbian a few years ago, and am still not convinced that it's a viable platform for the future.”
http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/[....]kia-says-symbian-will-die.html
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Posted: 2008-10-03 15:23:04
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well...i do
and it wasnīt a mess from the P990 onwards...the P990 was THE MESS...P1, W960, g700, g900 were good products from the beggining, and the UI also evolved
And that was also getting even better with UIQ 3.3, as far as we can tell, and with the next UIQ 4 aka UIQ touch...
However, without hardware upgrades from SE, that would mean nothing
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Posted: 2008-10-03 15:23:49
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Muhammad-Oli Posts: > 500
Just putting this out there, and I would never even pretend to know a lot about software, etc. And I have never used a UIQ phone before, though have always been very tempted to buy one. Anyway...
With the Symbian Foundation, of which SE is a member, it is obvious that we will see Symbian phones from SE in the future at some stage. It is increasingly likely that we won't ever see a UIQ phone again as we know them today. It wouldn't be wise for SE to make another UIQ phone because the Symbian Foundation platform will only be backwards compatible with S60.
But Motorola and SE both joint own UIQ right? After all UIQ's assets have been handed over to the Symbian Foundation, UIQ will what...? Just vanish? With the way the UIQ website is being kept up to date, and the way they're pumping out new concepts, I somewhat doubt it.
With the Symbian Foundation, obviously the manufacturers will put their own stamp onto the platform right? For example, SE will make it look like an SE platform with their own icons, applications, etc. So who's gonna do that? What I'm thinking is that maybe UIQ will handle that for SE and Motorola! I wonder, maybe then they could call it Symbian with UIQ or something along those lines, and they could make it pretty similar to the UIQ we are all used to and love.
That's just something I've been pondering over the last few days, and its all speculation based on what I read.
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Posted: 2008-10-03 15:36:55
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Thatīs also my only hope...that they put UIQ engineers making the UI for SEīs version of the Symbian Foundation OS
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Posted: 2008-10-03 15:43:23
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Does the latest incarnation of Symbian support touch screens?
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Posted: 2008-10-03 17:18:12
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There won't be an SE version of the symbian foundation platform, there will just be the one platform for all. They will probably change the look and feel and have some of their own apps, but it's still the same platform.
Version 5 of the S60 platform does have touch. Not sure how much of that is from symbian - but they will all soon be nokia employees at symbian anyway.
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Posted: 2008-10-03 17:30:19
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You are not getting it...when people say SE version on symbian foundation, is just the UI...both Motorola and SE use UIQ3.x, but the UI is different
Same goes for Nokia, Samsung and LG regarding s60 v3...
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Posted: 2008-10-03 17:34:53
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@ares and Muhammad-Oli
I do hope we get to see that from SE. It would be some sort of consolation to those of us who got accustomed to UIQ. Honestly, and like ares mentioned, UIQ is the better OS compared to S60. Unfortunately...
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Posted: 2008-10-03 19:39:59
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@Boing
There's a reason for me saying that. This is because, with the P990, SE did not enjoy the safety margin as it had with its previous smartphones. Now its rivals were matching its every move. The P990 itself was such a mess, as Ares rightfully pointed out!
@Ares
I agree with you. That's the only hope that I have too. But with the news that SE's symbian developers are leaving too, things don't look pretty good.
I wish we could just have atleast one more handset based on UIQ touch from SE. the prototype concepts look so cool on their site!
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Posted: 2008-10-04 06:13:06
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