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the SE in ear phones are fine, they are equivalent to Sony EX71's. But next to sennheiser full size 215's obviously the SE unit will not be as good.
You might as well compare a Golf VW (a great zippy little car with good performance) with a Ferrari F55 (a beast of a machine with gut wrenching handling and butt puckering acceleration)
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Posted: 2008-12-14 13:23:00
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Well. you got a good point there, max. I guess my problem is that I got used to this great Sennheiser after being disappointed with my HPM-82 which I just couldn't fit comfortably into my ears. And in that case it just can't sound good.
So to answer H_rY's question a bit I did some comparing of SE headsets, and the one that sounds best AND fit comfortably came with my HGE-100 GPS unit (bass reflex). So when I don't feel like carrying around my big headset I will probably use this. (haha, will have to use it with HPM-82's cable when using my C702)
HPM-64 has these earbuds too.
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[ This Message was edited by: Sator1973 on 2008-12-14 21:34 ]
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Posted: 2008-12-14 22:17:04
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those kind of ear buds aren't strictly "in ear". In ear buds are those that go right into the ear canal (aka the HPM 70 kind) and you have to use the rubber grommet that makes the buds fit properly otherwise they will be uncomortable and fall out easily and not form a proper seal. They are designed to block out a substantial amount of outside noise, where as the HPM-64 type of ear bud won't block outside sound anywhere near as efficiently as in-ear buds.
Did you try all the grommet sizes that come with the HPM-82?
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Posted: 2008-12-15 03:45:06
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may be sator means the HPM-82 didn't suitable for his ears... it's happen to me too, when using a medium earbuds with HPM82 it's not block outside sound so good. different with a HPM-77, when using this HPM with medium ears bud too, it can block outside sound better than HPM82, and it's sound much better than hpm82.
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Posted: 2008-12-15 15:38:51
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Yes, they just don't fit my ears well. Tried all the gromet sizes, but they only sound OK if I keep them pushed into my ears. The HPM-64 buds sound a lot better, even without the blocking function. One day I might buy another set of inears, but then I want to be sure I can stick them in my ears in a comfortable manner. Must say I've never tried the HPM-70-likes, so maybe they would fit better. I guess I need a different shape of bud.
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Posted: 2008-12-16 15:54:32
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On 2008-12-15 15:38:51, H_rY wrote:
may be sator means the HPM-82 didn't suitable for his ears... it's happen to me too, when using a medium earbuds with HPM82 it's not block outside sound so good. different with a HPM-77, when using this HPM with medium ears bud too, it can block outside sound better than HPM82, and it's sound much better than hpm82.
HPM 77 and HPM 70 are quite different.. the buds are completely different shape.
The HPM-70 and HPM-82 ear buds are identical in all respects.
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Posted: 2008-12-17 03:17:35
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On 2008-12-12 15:49:10, max_wedge wrote:
Not at all. Walkman is just a marketing gimmick. It always has been. Do you think the early "walkman" cassette players from other brands weren't as good as a Sony branded "Walkman"? Of course not. Pioneer, Phillips, Teac and others also had good quality units. It's just that Sony started the ball rolling so their branding became the generic term for portable cassette players. It didn't mean they were better.
Same in the SE line up. Walkman is just a marketing tool, but they haven't actually given non walkman phones any advantage other than HPM-70 and HPM-82 style headsets and pretty branding (and in some models there is better ergonomics in the music player). But actual sound quality is fairly standard across all their range.
True in a way. I always said Sony have been overpriced. You could always get another brand ( Goodmans etc) with double the feautres for half the price, but build quality is a different story....
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Posted: 2008-12-17 03:44:49
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On 2008-12-16 15:54:32, Sator1973 wrote:
Yes, they just don't fit my ears well. Tried all the gromet sizes, but they only sound OK if I keep them pushed into my ears. The HPM-64 buds sound a lot better, even without the blocking function. One day I might buy another set of inears, but then I want to be sure I can stick them in my ears in a comfortable manner. Must say I've never tried the HPM-70-likes, so maybe they would fit better. I guess I need a different shape of bud.
if u're have tried HPM 82, it's same with HPM-70, the different just "remote" about the sound they're same.
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Posted: 2008-12-17 12:26:03
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Yeah, max is right about the earbuds. HPM-82 and 70 are the same. So HPM-77 or 88 probably fit better. But for now I'm not gonna spend on a new headset, as I'm still satisfied with what I have. (Just need better sounddrivers for my C702)
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Posted: 2008-12-17 13:39:14
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