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code28h4p Posts: > 500

Outdoor: C510
Indoor/lowlight:W810i
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Posted: 2009-05-27 05:19:43
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fluke9 Posts: 461

Thanks all.

Need a cheapy with reasonable pic quality, the W810i still has good pic quality even after nearly 4 years use. and C510's are only £99ish at Carphone Warehouse.

Is it true all Carphone Warehouse phones are unlocked ???
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Posted: 2009-05-27 09:54:55
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pt020 Posts: > 500

I think the W800/810 have the best 2MP camera on the market.
this pictures i made with my old W800
night picture

day

[ This Message was edited by: pt020 on 2009-05-27 11:58 ]

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Posted: 2009-05-27 12:54:20
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Luhccas-U1a Posts: > 500


On 2009-05-27 00:03:36, plankgatan wrote:
??????? not really a lowlight ?????
if you shoot a picture in iso-200 IT IS LOWLIGHT. (its shot in complete darkness with a tiny 15w lamp beside it, if you wonder)

what about iso-500 (now we really testing the limit of a cellphone i would never get this quality with my w810 at night in iso-500. thats for sure.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1074/200903152131qzn837.jpg

anyway...i would rather buy c510 for a better allround camera



I've seen pictures with iso800 (from t650 for example) with better details than that.And you CAN'T use iso to determine what is low light.
I have pictures of sunlight situations with iso200,400 etc.And,is it low light?
I really like your pics with c902 but your efforts to ever say "they are the best in this,in that,bla bla bla" verge to ridicule...
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Posted: 2009-05-27 13:13:01
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plankgatan Posts: > 500

w810 is nice phone with OK camera,(not super good picture quality though). cant understand how you can say it take good indoor/lowlight, (been there, done that).
think the keypad and buildquality is the best thing. (lack of lens cover is the worse thing...the lens gets really smudgy and scratchy)

best 2 m.p. camera have first edition of k750 (and w800), w810 have more blurred/weak pic quality.

go for c510:
¤ MUCH better screen, (bigger and much more vibrant)
¤ better camera for normal photographing, (if you are a full size sucker ??? buy a DSLR camera )
¤ lens cover
¤ A200
¤ a lot more features


ps...luhccas-c905. just one tiny little thing. I never say "my" pics are best (im not that stupid). I (sometimes) say C902 take "best"/great pics .....thats 2 different things
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-05-27 12:50 ]

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Posted: 2009-05-27 13:30:33
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brazzuka's Posts: > 500


luhccas-c905
I've seen pictures with iso800 (from t650 for example) with better details than that.And you CAN'T use iso to determine what is low light.
I have pictures of sunlight situations with iso200,400 etc.And,is it low light?
I really like your pics with c902 but your efforts to ever say "they are the best in this,in that,bla bla bla" verge to ridicule...


A brief summary of this device ISO
About ISO digital camera sensitivity:
ISO is the number indicating a digital camera sensors sensitivity to light. The higher the sensitivity, the less light is needed to make an exposure.

Digital cameras automatically select the ISO but most have a setting to change it manually. Auto ISO generally works best for bright scenes.

Shooting at a lower ISO number requires more light than shooting at a higher number. Lower numbers result in images with the least visible noise, which is desirable. The higher the number, the more noise.

The amount and degree of noise varies from camera to camera. Noise, when present, can be seen throughout a photo but usually appears most in dark areas.

Digital single lens reflex cameras produce images with the lowest noise at all ISO numbers compared to compact cameras. This is because they have larger sensors. However, some consumer digital cameras do better than others when it comes to noise.

ISO settings

AUTO ISO - digital camera automatically sets the ISO speed according the the brightness of the scene, increasing or decreasing the sensitivity. User has no control over which ISO number is used.

ISO 80 - for taking photos in bright light; excellent for close-ups, landscape, and portraits. Produces fine detail and image quality.

ISO 100 - for extra sensitivity with little, if any, reduced image quality.

ISO 200 - cloudy and overcast days. Acceptable image quality, with some visible noise.

ISO 400 - suitable for indoor photography whether or not a flash is used. Useful for “stop-action” and sports photographs. Most compact digital cameras produce high to very high image noise.

ISO 800, 1600 and above - useful for taking photos in very low light, or outside in good light when increased shutter speeds are required. Results can be disappointing when shooting at these high numbers with compact digital cameras, so take test photos before photographing an important event.

High Auto ISO mode- the camera uses automatically chooses a very high ISO number. If the camera has a High ISO mode, it is usually a fixed number, such as ISO 3200. The camera may also automatically reduce the size of images shot in High ISO mode.

Changing the ISO can also change the aperture and shutter speed, depening on what exposure mode is used.

source:digital cam
tnks the digital cam

Ridiculous is to be critical of photograph.
Only the iso for certain sensors makes no difference, can be iso10 or iso100000000, if you do not have good mechanisms, device for nothing is worth it.About iso800 with a original camdriver t650 i never saw.
So stop criticizing people for getting a picture, it does not make sense.
Please less words and more photos guys relax
[ This Message was edited by: brazzuka's on 2009-05-27 13:27 ]

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Posted: 2009-05-27 13:57:47
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Luhccas-U1a Posts: > 500


On 2009-05-27 13:30:33, plankgatan wrote:
ps...luhccas-c905. just one tiny little thing. I never say "my" pics are best (im not that stupid). I (sometimes) say C902 take "best"/great pics .....thats 2 different things
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-05-27 12:50 ]


Well,i talked about c902,not your pics or skills.

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Posted: 2009-05-27 15:41:48
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Luhccas-U1a Posts: > 500


On 2009-05-27 13:57:47, brazzuka's wrote:

A brief summary of this device ISO


Não precisa me explicar o que eu estou vendo diariamente na faculdade e no complementar de fotografia.Eu falei sobre o excesso de "endeusamento" em cima do c902 e sobre UM exemplo de fotografia.
You don't need to tell me that... The critic was about c902 and one example of picture,not about pictures.
[ This Message was edited by: luhccas-c905 on 2009-05-27 14:55 ]

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Posted: 2009-05-27 15:54:35
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brazzuka's Posts: > 500


On 2009-05-27 15:54:35, luhccas-c905 wrote:

On 2009-05-27 13:57:47, brazzuka's wrote:

A brief summary of this device ISO


Não precisa me explicar o que eu estou vendo diariamente na faculdade e no complementar de fotografia.Eu falei sobre o excesso de "endeusamento" em cima do c902 e sobre UM exemplo de fotografia.
You don't need to tell me that... The critic was about c902 and one example of picture,not about pictures.
[ This Message was edited by: luhccas-c905 on 2009-05-27 14:55 ]



Ah ok. sosorry in try to explain you but note that you know enough by your comments above.I'm always learning something new and wanting to learn. About c902 I think nobody is thinking is a god but c902 has many possibilities and unfortunately the c905 is a little limited.Heyy very nice are you doing college to photograph... good luck and good pics!

Plank nice shots with c902.

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Posted: 2009-05-27 17:58:42
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coolharsh55 Posts: 476

common guys.... its a no-brainer thread.....

w810 was awesome when it released, now its old... even if it can take some 'good' pics...
its a 2mp device with LED... good macro results..

c510 is a new gen cyber-shot with 3.2mp, dual LED, smile shutter, face detection.
and compared to w810 it can handle low light better...

so, even if some loyalists like to stay with their beloved 'old' things...
its time to move on guys...

there'e no way you'd leave smile shutter and face detection behind.. when the comparison in question is cid36 and a200...
the c501 permorms quite good in low light...
as a review said, its nothing path-breaking... but just a solid device.
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Posted: 2009-05-27 18:41:32
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