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kanjer Posts: 47

i have to agree with the above, having had many SE phones in the past a lot of the issues we have here is SW related and hence the FW should sort it out. Remember how buggy the K850 was so bad that What Mobile gave it a 3 out of 5! but upped the rating once the improvements were made. My P990i was aweful to use initially until the FW upgrade making it a very useable handset same with P1i
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Posted: 2009-11-25 10:56:29
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vegetaleb Posts: > 500

They meant that one FW upgrade will not be sufficiant but several FW updates which would be logical and this was and will always be the case for all the mobile phones ever!
Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy like if it was the only buggy phone in history
Yes T3 is sponsored by Apple,I was reading T3 magazines for 1 year and OMG every single article,preview or review of even a coffee maker should be related to iphone or ipod
[ This Message was edited by: vegetaleb on 2009-11-25 10:50 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-25 11:48:55
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Nitro Fan Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-25 11:48:55, vegetaleb wrote:
They meant that one FW upgrade will not be sufficiant but several FW updates which would be logical and this was and will always be the case for all the mobile phones ever!
Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy like if it was the only buggy phone in history
Yes T3 is sponsored by Apple,I was reading T3 magazines for 1 year and OMG every single article,preview or review of even a coffee maker should be related to iphone or ipod
[ This Message was edited by: vegetaleb on 2009-11-25 10:50 ]



Source Techradar
Sony Ericsson Satio sales suspended
Two stores pull handset due to buggy software


The stores have temporarily halted sales of the Satio until manufacturer Sony Ericsson offers fixes for issues that customers raised, which include random powering-down and slowness. (See our review for some user comments that have raised similar issues).

Apparently, a firmware upgrade won't fix the issue, so the handsets must be recalled.

I have been complaining here about inability to write decent SW for about three years, seems to me do not take any notice of ESATO!

as for this nonsense "Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy l" IT IS NOTHING to do with Apple saying the Satio is Buggy,

Sony Ericsson are doing a great job of proving its buggy themselves!

I have a Nokia 5800XM that runs the Symbian S60V5 OS Flawlessly yet have to muck about with it and the result is two of the biggest retailers in the UK suspend selling the phone as it wont work! Same with the X1 the panel destroyed WinMo I tried one and it stank! and I fear the Android X10 will be equally badly crippled by them. The problem is cannot write software NOT that Apple make nasty comments!
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2009-11-25 11:09 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-25 12:04:36
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jmcomms Posts: > 500

I know people at T3 and I would agree that many tech/gadgets mags like to mention Apple as much as possible - if only because having an iPod or iPhone on the cover seems to sell more issues (Apple fan boys presumably buy ANYTHING that features an Apple product or mention). However, I wouldn't say that any mag is 'bought' by Apple as they do bugger all advertising. They don't need to. Apple has no real hold over the press, as you could still write about them even if Apple never answered the phone to you (and with their last PR company, that was frequent).

Okay, so they could lavish every journalist with an iPhone, iPod, MacBook Pro, iMac 27-inch and Apple TV's etc - but I can assure you they don't. They give out products on fairly short loan periods, and while there are some lucky people who manage to hold on to things for longer (I still have an iPhone 3G for example that's over a year old!), I really don't think you can say anything about bribery!

Of course, conspiracy theorists can say that I would say that...
[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2009-11-25 11:52 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-25 12:48:25
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Nitro Fan Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-25 12:48:25, jmcomms wrote:
I know people at T3 and I would agree that many tech/gadgets mags like to mention Apple as much as possible - if only because having an iPod or iPhone on the cover seems to sell more issues (Apple fan boys presumably buy ANYTHING that features an Apple product or mention). However, I wouldn't say that any mag is 'bought' by Apple as they do bugger all advertising. They don't need to. Apple has no real hold over the press, as you could still write about them even if Apple never answered the phone to you (and with their last PR company, that was frequent).

Okay, so they could lavish every journalist with an iPhone, iPod, MacBook Pro, iMac 27-inch and Apple TV's etc - but I can assure you they don't. They give out products on fairly short loan periods, and while there are some lucky people who manage to hold on to things for longer (I still have an iPhone 3G for example that's over a year old!), I really don't think you can say anything about bribery!

Of course, conspiracy theorists can say that I would say that...
[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2009-11-25 11:52 ]



I am not sure T3 would sell many copies IF their customers thought T3 might not be "HIP" to what is (regrettably) almost certainly the best selling tech wanna have in the UK! Mags such as T3 and others have managed to deliver the message that iPhone is great even when it has glaring issues! sure it looks pretty and undoubtedly works better in some areas than almost anything have ever built but I still wont have one, still too many important details missing for me.
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Posted: 2009-11-25 14:25:07
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

I have read T3 many times & they rated some phones as top like w995
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Posted: 2009-11-25 14:34:26
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-25 12:04:36, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2009-11-25 11:48:55, vegetaleb wrote:
They meant that one FW upgrade will not be sufficiant but several FW updates which would be logical and this was and will always be the case for all the mobile phones ever!
Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy like if it was the only buggy phone in history
Yes T3 is sponsored by Apple,I was reading T3 magazines for 1 year and OMG every single article,preview or review of even a coffee maker should be related to iphone or ipod
[ This Message was edited by: vegetaleb on 2009-11-25 10:50 ]


Source Techradar
Sony Ericsson Satio sales suspended
Two stores pull handset due to buggy software

The stores have temporarily halted sales of the Satio until manufacturer Sony Ericsson offers fixes for issues that customers raised, which include random powering-down and slowness. (See our review for some user comments that have raised similar issues).
Apparently, a firmware upgrade won't fix the issue, so the handsets must be recalled.
I have been complaining here about inability to write decent SW for about three years, seems to me do not take any notice of ESATO!
as for this nonsense "Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy l" IT IS NOTHING to do with Apple saying the Satio is Buggy,
Sony Ericsson are doing a great job of proving its buggy themselves!
I have a Nokia 5800XM that runs the Symbian S60V5 OS Flawlessly yet have to muck about with it and the result is two of the biggest retailers in the UK suspend selling the phone as it wont work! Same with the X1 the panel destroyed WinMo I tried one and it stank! and I fear the Android X10 will be equally badly crippled by them. The problem is cannot write software NOT that Apple make nasty comments!
[ This Message was edited by: Nitro Fan on 2009-11-25 11:09 ]


+1 Nitro. Exactly.
A lot of issues are SEs fault,not S60v5. Satio has the best hardware around yet you still read about it stuttering when running multiple apps,like Media if i remember correctly. Very very poor optimization by SE. A 5800xm with 128mb RAM and a ARM11 CPU at 434mhz running S60v5 can run multiple heavy tasks FLAWLESSLY, yet Satio with 256mb RAM and ARM A8-Cortex TI OMAP3430 CPU with graphics acceleration, cant do the same without stuttering,thats very worrying, its a complete waste of brilliant hardware.
As for Apple trying to destroy Satio, LOL i think its the OTHER WAY AROUND, but clearly Satio is failing to do that. i dont think Apple need to destroy Satios image, SE are doing that just fine by themselves.
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Posted: 2009-11-25 15:09:12
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dipb Posts: 209

As someone mentioned before, it is something to do with a particular batch of production. P4U first started selling Satio in UK even before any retailer/service provider. Then came, Vodafone, Orange and CW and followed by others. The last to follow is O2.

I think the problem people are talking about is all to do with particular batch of the phone. I would be lying if I say I did not have any issues. I did. But low in number.

Some percentage of all phones, when launched in the market is buggy. The manufacturers fix it through firmware updates. It is true for any operating system, be it for phone or computer. I think we are being too paranoid here. Let us all wait and watch what happens with the new firmware.

Yes I am still being optimistic because I love and I love Satio for various reasons.
At the end I would just like to say to, do not let me down.
[ This Message was edited by: dipb on 2009-11-25 15:40 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-25 16:39:18
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vegetaleb Posts: > 500

Some people love to flame a mobile phone for fun!
Since when nokia,motorola,HTC and others are doing perfect phones without FWs updates??
It took 3 FWs for the 5800 to be stable for example!
It took more than 1 year for Apple to reveal the hidden bluetooth of the ipod touch 2G thanks to the 3rd version of the OS...
Does the Satio has HARDWARE bugs???? NO!
So have a life and give SE a couple of days to release the first FW update,the Satio has only 1 month old after all.
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Posted: 2009-11-25 17:03:05
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anonymuser Posts: > 500

I think the Satio is just a deserving victim of higer expectations from modern smartphones. Some of the "hardcore" users here are well versed in all the usual niggles and snags that have come with every new smartphone (particularly Symbian or Windows Mobile smartphones) for years, and aren't too fazed by the Satio's bugs, or even overlook them. But the thing is, smartphones aren't just the preserve of those people anymore, they've gone mainstream. Satio is competing with phones running much newer, slicker OSs and coming off badly in the comparison. People used to dumb phone reliability or the likes of an iPhone or Android device just aren't going to put up with all those old Symbian quirks, so for them it's just a case of putting it back in the box and chucking it back at the shop.

The good old days of geeks like us having "patience" with buggy new smartphones and perservering to "get the best" out of a flawed new device are over - the bar has been set too high already.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-11-25 16:16 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-25 17:13:19
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