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ok guys, let's not be too hard on nokia ok? noks are so much better than
at quite a lot of things. for example:
1. they blend much better with mr. t gold chains and tacky jewelry
2. menus and functions are much less extensive and less complicated, just like dr. seuss' books
3. they sell the same phone in several different versions, making you pay more for each one, but making you feel trendier for upgrading to the "newer" technology (7210, 6610, 6100... same crap, different case?)
4. titanium cases can pass you off as a beverly hills wannabe
5. they always come out with a new model just in time for the complete breakdown of your existing phone
6. accessories i bought today won't be compatible with the next nok phone that comes out, giving me another chance to buy new stuff and show other nok owners that they are stuck with obsolete junk, as opposed to my newer junk
7. they take new
technologies, put them in a glossier package, and look like the real innovators
8. they place more emphasis on marketing than engineering, which is what is much more important anyway
9. they give you a good excuse to have more than one nok since none of them ever comes complete with all the features
10. and finally, most likely won't have to worry about being bluejacked, since most noks don't have
anyway!
i guess since i'm sticking with
, i'll never be considered one of the fashion set...
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Posted: 2003-01-28 18:34:00
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Shite topic... Well since most phones today is shite i guess i have to agree.. Both me and all my friends have had all makes of phones since -96 and we have all had problems with them.. Even the boxes the phones come in are crappy today compared to 2110i and GH868!
My current phone (t68i) is ok, though definetly not better than my 6210 quality-wise! So far: the volume button sounds like baby rattlesnake when sitting in carholder. Molasses menus,more tedious than Nokias (Loads better than Motorolas retarded menus though)
three times so far it has failed to boot up, only backlight coming on, screen black. Once got slower and slower until i restarted it. (Yes i have latest SW version) This december i am renewing my contract with Vodafone and i donīt have a clue which phone to buy.. today iīd go for a 6100 or GD87 i think.. but i donīt expect either one of them to be flawless
And spare me the p800 promo, i donīt like swiss army knives, if i need a knife i use a knife, if i want to unscrew something i use a screwdriver (get the metaphore?)
Donīt get me wrong, if you need or want all the features, knock yourself out! But i need/want a phone first and foremost.
So, live and let live guys and gals, buy what you like, itīs your money and your decision in the end.
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Posted: 2003-01-28 21:46:00
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Sorry fadywwf316 but you say Nokia have more experience than Ericsson, so this is why Ericsson have been in the telecoms industry since 1872 and Nokia have been goinghow long. I rest my case.
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Posted: 2003-01-28 23:06:00
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Well as for bluetooth, never use it, wouldn't be seen dead with those ridiculous headsets, which sap power, are horrible to connect ,bluetooth is actually shite, much better sytems in the pipeline.
Nokia phones sell much better than SE's cos they are better, look back at the Ericssons range, a lot of crap there, thats why they went belly up and had to be rescued by Sony.
Sony have the style, Nokia have the hardware and MUCH better marketing/image/usability.
This T68i will be my last SE phone, sorry guys.
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Posted: 2003-01-28 23:24:00
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I'm sorry for you too.
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Posted: 2003-01-29 04:32:00
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JohnM wrote:
"God, i've heard alot of bollocks before, but that last post takes the biscuit! Nokia phones are total shite end of story. Right, next question?!"
Actually, you fool, the man that started this topic asked for REASONS why SE is better that Nokia, instead of friggen stupid comments like you just made- 'end of story' blah blah blah
Oh, ok everyone- JohnM just finished the debate- he said end of story!! Well, looks like SE are better than Nokia. All say a big thankyou to JohnM for clearing that one up for us with all those outstanding points to proove it, just like dards asked for.
That was tongue in cheek if you didnt notice you friggen bias dogbreed.
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Posted: 2003-01-29 05:16:00
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dudes...cool down and just state ur opinions, no need to flame a war between SE and Nokia AGAIN!!
ok, here's what i think
Nokia..generally more expensive than SE with similar specs, maybe a better colour screen but loosing out BT and some little functions here and there...
But considering the specs offered by the 3650 which retails for just a mere USD500...it would be hard for me to decide which one to buy (P800/3650)...a difference of USD250 is quite a lot, whether the money live up to the additional features offered by a P800, it's completely dependent on individual needs.
About SE phones manufactured in Malaysia...hey...try and make a survey around and check out the ferquency of Nokia or SE's HARDWARE breakdown. Remember hardware...the firmware is not produced in Malaysia, ok? And btw, is it long forgotten that Nokia's quality control is bad bad bad, LCD....buzzer...everything seems to need a replacement after a mere 1 year usage( take note again: most handsets, not all, so don't come telling me that 'Hey! My Nokia works just fine and u r wrong')!
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Posted: 2003-01-29 05:40:00
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talking about reliability, a recent study (forgot where i read it) said that the nokia return rate for defective phones is currently above 30%, while the industry average is at about 10%. for the 3300 series, it can go as high as 60% for some models.
some of the quotes in the article came from swedish and finnish phone retailers, so that should classify the info as being pretty objective.
aside from buzzers, slides, etc., i do remember that a lot of the 8800 series phones' lcd screens would just die one day, turning the phone into one expensive paper weight.
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Posted: 2003-01-29 05:55:00
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On 2003-01-28 23:24, bigjobs wrote:
Nokia phones sell much better than SE's cos they are better, look back at the Ericssons range, a lot of crap there, thats why they went belly up and had to be rescued by Sony.
Sony have the style, Nokia have the hardware and MUCH better marketing/image/usability.
Nokia most definately does NOT have the hardware. They have the marketing, alright; but in terms of hardware, features and value for money, they lose bigtime. There is a LOT of Crap in the Nokia range as well. Ever wonder why so many Nokia service centers popped up? Not because Nokias are popular, but because they break down a lot and generally have BUGGY software on release; the Service centers make a bloody fortune off of the poor Nokia QA.
Besides, they really rip you off with their policy of "Same phone, different casing and bingo! New product line!"
I think my Girlfriend said it best when she switched from an 8310 to an Me45:
"Wow! Considering this is cheaper than my old phone, I can't believe all the functions this phone has! Nokia really dumbs you down!"
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Posted: 2003-01-29 07:26:00
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nokia really has marketed the looks of their phones. where i come from you can upgrade a 3310 to 3330 or an 8210 to an 8250 which means that same hardware can carry the same software, which means no real evolution.
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Posted: 2003-01-29 07:30:00
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