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I use a pair of amazing gold plated Sony headphone with volume control. They are the standard headphone size and I have a convertor that lets it fit into my P800. I don't think I can ever listen to the supplied headphones again after using these ones with the convertor. Huge difference and I am one of those 'sound perfectionists'
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Posted: 2003-04-10 11:14:00
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man your ear is sensetive
I sometimes play songs that are 64 or even 38, Normall songs sound fine but if the song is metal/ rock then you need something like 96 --> 128
I usually try to shrink songs to about 1.5 mb
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Posted: 2003-04-10 11:57:00
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I'm working on making a totally new headset for my P800 using nicer headphones.
Although I realized that the Audio player on the P800 really isn't that good.... even with my 192kbps mp3s. I think I'll just use my P800 for movies and recorded TV shows... and stick with my Minidisc for music.
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Posted: 2003-04-10 12:00:00
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I suppose some people are perfectionists, however, I have used MP3's to play my music for 3 years now using BPM Studio. I play in several large nightclubs, and have a top of the range Peavey system for my mobile gigs. I personally think there is no great quality loss encoding at 128Kps. I have played MP3 then CD on my rig and there is no discernable difference.
People who complain about MP3 should just avoid it. I can't, as to put my whole collection on a hard drive at CD quality it would need to be 155Gb in size. Try fitting that in a laptop !!
In all seriousness, it's a PHONE, what quality do you expect !!
Keith
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Posted: 2003-04-10 13:13:00
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This guy is working on an OGG/MP3 player which has many more features than the standard player that comes with the phone. He's going to be selling it for aroun $15 on Handango. I emailed him a couple of weeks ago and he was quite close to finishing it... Screenshots look quite good.
http://www.o000o.org/projects/symbian/audiomagic/index.php
Ogg format gives similar quality to MP3 but with much better compression ratios. That might even let you fit (wow) 6 files on a 16MB card...
On another note AV-Land -
http://www.avland.co.uk/sony/msgm128/index.htm - reckon they'll have 128MB Duo sticks in 2 weeks. I've placed an order so will keep you informed, but given what I've heard from other suppliers both in the UK and elsewhere I'm not going to hold them to that date!
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Posted: 2003-04-10 13:28:00
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Ogg sounds OK, would just be a pain to re-encode everything.
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Posted: 2003-04-10 19:06:00
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128kbps is bearable... I guess it would depend on the encoder... I've heard really bad 128kbps quantization noise, and I've heard pretty quiet ones as well... rave, techno, and heavy metal sound fine at 128kbps... but classical music just sounds fuzzy. 192kbps for classical music (or anything with clean piano, guitar or string instruments) should be the minimum.
I think the built in mp3 player is fine... it just lacks a few things:
-EQ (even just a basic 3-band)
-proper playlist...not this folder grouping crap
-control playback via hardware buttons/jogdial with flip closed
-built-in ID3 tag editor
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Posted: 2003-04-10 19:49:00
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Has no-one tried encoding at 64kbps with mp3pro? Sounds pretty much the same as when i did my files @ 128kbps standard, gets a song down to about 1.5mb
http://www.mp3prozone.com/
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Posted: 2003-04-10 20:39:00
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Do MP3Pro songs play on the P800?
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Posted: 2003-04-10 20:44:00
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yup, got them on mine right now.
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Posted: 2003-04-10 22:33:00
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