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Look my good Sony and Ericsson funs there is no need to fight because the two companies are grate we can see that in the past years.
It is true that Ericsson for a big time was the leader in mobile phones, do you remember the legentery GH388 tell me what company made a phone that time to stand next to it.
So the conclusion is that Ericsson is a strong company, some said in 1998-1999-2000 Ericsson was leading the 40% of the worldwide market, but there is something that they didn’t tell us (the 40% in telephonic senters ,servers and military radars).
I can ensure you for that, so the profit for Ericsson in mobile phones was small after the release of some Nokia models>but unfortunately for the people that bought them and fortunately for Nokia the models soled mach peaces in the European market.
So this is the time that Sony comes into the game a coliseum enterprise with grate technology and height money resources but with nothing special to saw in the mobile phones section.
It was like the bride with all the qualifications (Ericsson) had married the rich husband (Sony).
My personal opinion is that it was necessary because two of my favourite companies are now one, and I believe that after the release of p800 there are many to wait for us.
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Posted: 2003-05-02 20:07:00
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On 2003-05-02 18:35, bigjobs wrote:
Interesting statement, "Sony ruined Ericsson"
Rescued them from oblivion, is the reality, their phones were utter poop, and were selling VERY badly.
My first mobile was a Sony, the analouge CMR111,a cute little palmphone with a flip down arm.
It was light years ahead of the competition, I will agree that they may have fooked up the styling, the new one's look very Sony 'RETRO', but the technology is all Sony and better for it.
Actually you will find that the majority of the technology is Ericsson. Sony are supposed to provide the style, marketing etc. Many of the features / design / internals are still largly ericsson. All of SE low range phones use the same software / menu system found in the t39, which originated in the t20. Evn the T610i menu design is very similar to the T68
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Posted: 2003-05-02 21:25:00
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I will agree that Ericsson is still the leader in technology. They do make mobile systems, so they know better than anyone how to optimizse the technology in the phones.
I think they just merged, because Sony phones looked like crap, but sony had money, something Ericsson didn't.
I think if sony was behind styling the phones, we would have nice phones. I have sony everything. MD Player, Discman, VCR, DVD, Plazma, Flat Screen, Monitor, Digital camera. They all look great, but the phones are my biggest concern at the moment.
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Posted: 2003-05-03 04:14:00
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Whats wrong with Sony ?? this is the reason for why I bought my P800 and T68i. If it wasnt for Sony I wouldnt even think to touch Ericsson. And by the way the Z7 was a great handset at its time, much more than ericssons handsets thats for sure.
So guys- Sony is whats matters not Ericsson.
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Posted: 2003-05-03 05:05:00
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This article is from more than 6 months ago!
That is too far in the past to make any determinations on SE's future.
jOnathan
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Posted: 2003-05-03 05:39:00
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Ericsson MAKES mobile systems worldwide.... Sony makes music and TV, they are not phone people. Without Ericsson Sony would be stuck with about 4 crappy looking, stupid working mobiles that about 10 people buy.
Without Ericsson Mobile phones wouldn't be what they are today. Who do you think started all the trends, then Nokia took them, released 10 products at once and Nokia was on the board.
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Posted: 2003-05-03 08:15:00
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As I said before.Why dont Sony make the screens and Ericsson the phones.Together nobody gonna beat that phone
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Posted: 2003-05-03 12:28:00
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the problem is that most people stay whit the brand they have, in this case nokia is on top, only samsung seems to exite people to go for a new brand.
needs more phones on the market.
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Posted: 2003-05-03 12:42:00
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As I said in another time each company has sections for the devises that are assembled from them, there are different sections for monitors & TV sets different for mobile phones different for entertainment devises (like ps1,ps2) and different for military products (radars wireless army networks satellite devices etc.)
Now when a section doesn’t goes good the profit from the others helps him.
But if he continues to fall in the market sales then the company has to do something about it.
This is what happen in Ericsson Swedish mobile telecommunications (it was the section for all Ericsson mobile phones), when Nokia relished in the market all the garbage phones like 3210,3310,8210,3330 and all this shit.
But the phones were good looking cheap and for someone who wants only to speak with his phone were o.k. (except for their batteries).
That’s how Ericsson singed up the agreement with Sony, and now SonyEricsson is a new section combined from the two companies it has nothing to do with TVs or hi-fis it works on its own.
And something about the disagrees between Sony and Ericsson ,when to companies with grate technology knowledge combine together the sure thing is that something good will happen (we can see that with P800) so let’s wait a little bit more and I believe the design will be better by time.
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Posted: 2003-05-03 15:31:00
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How can you be against Sony!? When Sony made their CMD-Z5 Ericsson had T28 and you think they made bether phones. Sony made only a couple of phones and 50% of them were very good but Ericsson made a zillion of them and only T68 was something good.
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Posted: 2003-05-03 16:00:00
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