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@a3t that aint the real size mate
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Posted: 2003-05-08 20:58:00
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On 2003-05-08 20:58, peterelder wrote:
@a3t that aint the real size mate
No I know .. but take a look at this:
http://www.threegmobile.net/gallery/siemenssx1/a03.jpg
Big ass mofo imho.
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Posted: 2003-05-08 22:11:00
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Check out its relative size here:
I think its a good size for a symbian phone!
Simon
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Posted: 2003-05-08 23:05:00
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i will still wait for the sx1 and definitely not get the t610 ever. siemens usa said that it will be availabe in the summer (june). i will also wait for the price to lower up till christmas then buy it. i'm in no hurry.
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Posted: 2003-05-08 23:30:00
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A couple of things about the sx1:
(A) @ Teomf
I'm not really sure how good an idea having users upgrade their phone really is. There are some people around who could manage it successfully, no doubt, but the large majority of people would find some way to screw it up. Even if all the user had to do is press one button, users would break it.
Thus ensues possible problems wrt warranties and such.
will upgrade the phones firmware if I ask them to, usually for free if I can remember my receipts - it's probably better that way. At least then if something goes wrong, it's not my fault.
(B) @ LastQuark
12th revision of firmware? The phone isn't even out yet, how can it be good that they have made 12 firmware versions? Surely having one proven, tested and full firmware is better. Sure, I'll take my t300 (and my t68i, when I had it) to get its FW upgraded every now and then if its required, but I don't want to have to live in the shop, y'know?
(C) @ UltimateMobiles
That's a really clear pic btw, I like that
The phone looks like its going to be a bit of a nightmare to navigate. Lets say, for example, you want to send a text message and that is done similar to the way Nokia phones send messages.
Please remember that the following example is also based on the way I believe people would use it, this may not apply to everyone.
First, you'd have your right hand (assuming you're right handed) at the bottom of the phone with your right thumb navigating using the joystick and occasionally pressing the softkeys either side.
Then, when it comes to actually
typing the text message, you'd have to change the posture of the phone and instead hold it in both hands, using a thumb on either side of the screen to type.
Once that's done, you could conceivably hold the phone steady with your left hand in the same position and navigate the menu again with the right hand, now shifted down to the bottom.
That's a whole lot of work, just to send a text message - plus of course this would have to be repeated to dial as well, unless you have uberlarge hands.
This is all compared to the completely (if you wanted to) one handed operation of pretty much all of the t300 (and other phones) features.
Ergonomically it seems more sound. Innovation in design is great, but sometimes manufacturers retain designs for a reason.
But either way, just my little rant.
Jalu
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Posted: 2003-05-09 01:13:00
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so... texting with 2 thumbs is much faster and only a dumbass could not use the sx1's keypad efficiently. i have read a report that using your thumb in texting too much is bad and will cause something like carpal tunnel syndrome on the thumb. 2 thumb used will lessen the burden on 1 thumb thereby decreasing the injury to it. in dialing that's why there is speed dial and like all phones just press a letter like M for example and all the corresponding names starting with M appears and you can just pick among the entries you want to call then press send. relatively easy for me. why make it seem difficult when it's not. many have upgraded their phones without anything not nice happening to it. i did upgrade my t65, 68i for it wanted to remove the bugs at the service center but i keep on bringing it back for something much worse always goes wrong in the process and i have to wait for weeks to get it back to me. i got fed up with SE phones.
[ This Message was edited by: d' fuhrer on 2003-05-09 07:51 ]
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Posted: 2003-05-09 08:46:00
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On 2003-05-09 01:13, jalu wrote:
A couple of things about the sx1:
I'm not really sure how good an idea having users upgrade their phone really is. There are some people around who could manage it successfully, no doubt, but the large majority of people would find some way to screw it up. Even if all the user had to do is press one button, users would break it.
Thus ensues possible problems wrt warranties and such.
will upgrade the phones firmware if I ask them to, usually for free if I can remember my receipts - it's probably better that way. At least then if something goes wrong, it's not my fault.
The point is SE should make it offical and public e.g publish on their website on a new firmware release in order to inform users the option to upgrade the firmware of their phones -which they obviously don't!
There is obviously the risk of the phone being damaged for some novice to upgrade it themselves - but that's the risk the users have to take - and who knows, perhaps Siemens have designed the s/w with warnings and such? If they were to allow upgrades like that on the 'net.
I'd like to see better SE support to their customers, they've no doubt improved the range of phones (P800+forthcoming T610) to go against Nokia but they also need to provide good customer support if they want to retain the customer loyalty.
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Posted: 2003-05-09 09:39:00
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3 Weeks ago Siemens Customer Care told me that June would be the release date. One week ago they told me that they didnt know any date.
Latest Xonio rumors say that Siemens staff are talking about finishing the phone middle-late July, so they will be available at the beginning of August.
Price range without contract 500-600 Euros.
I think that sounds pretty nice, perhaps I'll buy a T610 to check it out the next 2 or 3 months, but then I'll definately go for the Sx1. It's gotta be a ass kicker.
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Posted: 2003-05-09 11:04:00
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I find this discussion quite silly. The SX1 will not be out before november, actuallt probably later. The people in this forum who are talking about buying it should know that both SonyEricsson, Nokia, Samsung etc. will have similar models around november/december. Siemens are really fooling all of you, trying to stop you from buying a nice phone now. This is just the way Ericsson used to work. Now and in the future SonyEricsson, just as Nokia, will only present products that are more or less launchable - that is they are ready for production. Please guys do not talk about the SX1 as a butt-kicker since it is a phone that won´t be out for another 6 - 8 monts. Thats an entire product lifecycle from Nokia. In that time Nokia will have released 10 - 15 new models and Sony Ericsson will at least have the replacer fro P800 aswell as some other nice new phones. Foregt about the SX1! And buy a nice phone that is available to day - like the T610, 7250, V200 or whatever. In my opinon a T610 is the natural and obvious choice.
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Posted: 2003-05-09 15:10:00
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On 2003-05-09 15:10, tedsc456 wrote:
I find this discussion quite silly. The SX1 will not be out before november, actuallt probably later. The people in this forum who are talking about buying it should know that both SonyEricsson, Nokia, Samsung etc. will have similar models around november/december. Siemens are really fooling all of you, trying to stop you from buying a nice phone now. This is just the way Ericsson used to work. Now and in the future SonyEricsson, just as Nokia, will only present products that are more or less launchable - that is they are ready for production. Please guys do not talk about the SX1 as a butt-kicker since it is a phone that won´t be out for another 6 - 8 monts. Thats an entire product lifecycle from Nokia. In that time Nokia will have released 10 - 15 new models and Sony Ericsson will at least have the replacer fro P800 aswell as some other nice new phones. Foregt about the SX1! And buy a nice phone that is available to day - like the T610, 7250, V200 or whatever. In my opinon a T610 is the natural and obvious choice.
Umm.. I doubt the SX1 will be out later than planned.. 3G phones will be available by then.
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Posted: 2003-05-09 16:04:00
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