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Are you sure the p900 upgrade will evan work on the p800? For business reasons why upgrade your p800 when you could be sold a p900.
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Posted: 2003-10-13 00:13:50
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Arfi-Gorgona, you bought the P800 because it is a cool phone that has plenty of features. When the P900 comes out, the P800 will not die - it will still have the same functionality it had the day you bought it. SE will still provide bug fixes and provide support such as warranty repairs. Third-party app writers will still write software compatiable with the P800. The P800 won't be forgotten overnight.
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Posted: 2003-10-13 00:18:33
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Arfi-Gorgona Posts: > 500
support is not only bug fixes you know support is the missing features too,for their own good it better give this support because they lost a great deal of credability if you ask me support is features too its the same Os so we want the upgrade as free as they should give it.And i said befor microsoft dont want money for upgrades in the same OS its free for the net and it bug fixes and features too..
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Posted: 2003-10-13 00:28:09
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Not having owned a P800, I can't really comment too much on missing features. However, it certainly had way more features than any other phone in its class when released. When you bought the P800 you knew what features you were paying for and I would imagine that in general the P800 delivered. If you wanted other features that it did not provide then you had the choice not to buy the phone.
Anyway, I think the whole idea of comparing a smartphone with a PC is a little premature. SE and all the other manufacturers are still thinking in 'phone' mode where the customer upgrades every one or two years. Probably in a few years time we will get a phone that is designed to be upgradable like a PC and you will pay each year to get the firmware upgraded. Until then we will have to put up with buying a whole new phone every year if we want the latest technology.
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Posted: 2003-10-13 00:58:02
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Actually, while I'm very aware of the T68/68i story, I prefer not to consider anything other than the simple fact that the P800 is more "beta 900" than anything else. Unstable GPRS and Bluetooth, vcal 2.1, an uncustomizable UIQ...I feel odd, as if I've been a tester and I'm about to be left behind without any thanks. I had expected a stable and finished system when I bought in - obviously, it's been anything but.
I'm also expecting the commodity-mentality remarks -- it is what it is, buy a new one if you want new features, etc -- and that's fine, don't feel as if you need to bash. But I do recognize 2 very stong point that could sway things in out favor:
1) I didn't buy a commodity phone. I bought top-of-the-line, and I expect better treatment as a customer (or else next time I *will* buy commodity, and likely from someone else). Extreme phone, extreme service.
2) The marketplace is driven by customer demand..and at 700 Euro a pop, people read customer feedback before buying. There has been much to enjoy but also alot to bitch over. I bet that if we cry long enough and loud enough, we can certainly get our upgrade.
Sony woun't want anything casting a pall over the P900. They might also have a hard time moving older P800s. The -Press can easily pick up on these things (especially if we mail them
Sure it's blackmail, but do we as consumers have any other venue? I think most of us would even PAY for a decent upgrade, especially if it'll correct existing issues on Bluetooth or GRPS alone. I think Sony's already going to do the right thing, but if they don't, I do think action is needed.
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Posted: 2003-10-13 19:01:15
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@ all aggrieved P800 users.
i am afraid i am inclined 2 agree with drinker too on this one. if u think, and considering how the mobile phone market is, did anyone believe the P800 was gonna b SEs only ever smartphone? no!! wot would be the advantages for SE to release a brand new top of the range smartphone and then release a free upgrade for P800 users? none because then new users would just buy a cheap P800 and upgrade. therefore their brand new release would flop. big companies think big business. and Sony and Ericsson r big companies! dont get me wrong id much rather have a P900 in my hands than my P800....who wouldnt?! but the simple fact is P8 can do pretty much everything the P9 can do. i think they may make an upgrade available at a later date, but for now the sole reason 4 releasing P9 is to create a fresh new look to bring in new time buyers.
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Posted: 2003-10-13 20:30:00
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Arfi-Gorgona Posts: > 500
Yeah try to upgrade the 65k screen man!!The p900 has slighlty differences a new card reader i think, 65k screen and a little more memory.And something about the upgrades now.Why sony put an open architecture Os in the phone if they dont plan upgrades really,And why anyone buy a smartphone again if he knows that the support sucks?And the p800 is like a small pc as the palmtops or the other kind i dont remember now the name..Its upgratable with software so y not upgrade it?This is called support its not support to fix only the bugs in the phone even the samsung v200 now supporting the video capture why not p800?I dont give a sh-t about marketing if they want us to buy the expensive phones they make,we want real support.No one ask for a 65k screen in the p800 but the software support is paid by us already with 800EU,If we dont have it they dont have our money in our next purchuse.Thats all about that matter.
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Posted: 2003-10-13 21:13:14
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I know current P800 users will be annoyed, but the more I read here the more I believe they will not be getting a free P900 firmware update.
It seems that just because SE provided a free update from the t68m to the t68i (which I gladly took advantage of), everyone now expects free upgrades on all their phones. People, please bare in mind the t68m -> t68i offer was just a minor model update to provide all the features originally advertised for the t68 e.g. MMS. Upgrading a P800 to a P900 would be much more difficult (different hardware) and expensive (new license for the Symbian OS?)
Do you know of any other phone manufacturers who provide free upgrades to the latest model?
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Posted: 2003-10-13 21:23:52
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Arfi-Gorgona Posts: > 500
What new model man? its almost the same exept the 65k screen what new hardware you see?
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Posted: 2003-10-13 21:38:00
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it has a 400Mhz ARM9 processor and it has a Mirror on the back. and a B & O loud speaker.
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Posted: 2003-10-13 21:42:34
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