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www.allglobaltk.com Posts: 20

why when you can get it from . and not worry about anything. There full release OEM.
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Posted: 2003-10-25 06:04:24
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jackblue Posts: 84

are the rectal thermometers still available?
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Posted: 2003-10-25 09:22:18
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jimcarter Posts: 73

You can always protect yourself by making the payment using your credit card via Paypal,
Your credit card company will then protect you, if you dont receive the phone, you can simply do a chargeback to recover the money
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Posted: 2003-10-25 12:24:24
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JiggyJaggy Posts: > 500

true credit card companies will protect you. Thats one goos thing...just read all the small print though guys...
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Posted: 2003-10-25 13:19:05
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Andy_P Posts: > 500

Quote:
On 2003-10-25 09:22:18, jackblue wrote:
are the rectal thermometers still available?


lol
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Posted: 2003-10-25 15:34:28
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mrlover Posts: 44

To my knowledge, paypal only cover up to $500USD if the seller has "Paypal Buyer Protection",which he doesn't have (no paypal Buyer Proection icon in seller information on ebay listing). So if this is a Fraud, eBay will use "Standard purchase protection" which only cover up to $200USD - $25 fee. Paypal will also try to recover your money by using "Buyer Complain Process". To be eligible to file a Buyer Complain Process are, here are the conditions:

1.You must use PayPal to pay for your purchase

2.Your claim must be filed within 30 days of the payment

3.Your purchase is a tangible item (physical goods that are shipped to you). Services and intangible items, such as emailed recipes and e-books, are not covered.

4.The item you purchased was never received. The Buyer Complaint process only covers items that were never received. Complaints regarding items that were received in a state other than what was described in the listing will appear on the seller's record

With the condition # 4, what if the seller send an empty package with all the tracking #? With all the tracking info, he/she can present that to paypal as a proof of a complete transaction. Aren't we doom???

Regarding credit card protection, I think they only proctect you from unauthorized used of your credit card, not against authorized payment from you for a Fraud transaction. Any thoughts ladies/gentleman?

BTW, all six P900 auctions of his have been sold, & I am one of the buyer, but still reluctant to pay

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[ This Message was edited by: mrlover on 2003-10-25 15:36 ]
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Posted: 2003-10-25 16:26:20
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lulu ginzburg Posts: 104

The only way to protect yourself is not buying this obvious fraud ! lol
How can someone even think this is real? you must be a complete moron to bid and pay for such a scam....
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Posted: 2003-10-25 16:31:09
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mrlover Posts: 44

No need to use harsh word on other members. I might be a loser if I got tricked, but I might be a winner if this is real. The chance of this is real can be less than 50% that's y I am reluctant to pay. You cann't be 100% sure that this is a scam. Where is your fact? You can't base your fact on the price difference.

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Posted: 2003-10-25 16:45:07
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Jah Posts: > 500


Also there are escrow services that are also a scam - ie not real. I have been suggetsed two services by these fraudsters; both point to the same web site.

Have a look at these:

www.goods-trade.com and

www.Inteligent-Trade.com (spelling error "intelligent"!)

I know this a scam site as when I first used it a few weeks ago the registration web page was faulty and it does not use SSL!

These guys are becoming more sophisticated - so spread the word!


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Posted: 2003-10-25 16:58:23
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pachy Posts: > 500

@mrlover, We are all keen to see this new phone, its easy to get "convinced" that you have a chance of getting one early, the best advice i can offer is this:
When a new phone is about to come out, lots of crooks use Ebay to lure people,

I have NEVER seen a genuine phone available on EBAY before it is available to buy over the counter from the manufacturer,

Ebay is a great place to buy SECONDHAND phones, not new ones that are NOT OUT yet.

Keep your hard earned money untill the phone is available in shops, it wont be long.

ALSO please dont post topics like "p900 out Nov 3", just because an Ebay crook says it in his lie.

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[ This Message was edited by: pachy on 2003-10-25 16:02 ]
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Posted: 2003-10-25 17:00:01
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