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Posted: 2003-11-19 15:26:29
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A lot of mobile sales reps are so conditioned to only seeing contract phones that when they see my phone they say "you have a T-Mobile phone".... However, they're only looking at the Network status on the screen.. When I tell them it's not a T-Mo phone and that there is no branded logo they proceed to inform me that it's a T-Mo phone just because it sais it on the display screen.. Nevermind when I ask them for parts like a car charger for an SE phone, they tell me "we haven't seen that phone before so ask T-Mo". All neglecting the fact that it is not a phone manufactured for T-Mo. With that aside they proceed to tell me they have phones like that and show me a dumb sidekick or something similar... However, when I pop in my Cingular sim in the phone and the display reads "Cingular" I usually then ask "is that still a T-Mo phone now?". I usually continue the bit by showing them my Vodophone UK and BEN NL sims and ask them if they insist to continue educating me on who the phone belongs to.
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Posted: 2003-11-19 16:04:34
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I hear from friend sin the States that the mobile tech there is somewhat ... lacking shall we say. That and I have also read a number of articles on the state of US telecommunications.
Apart from the usual reasons given, is there any other reason why mobiles havn't become as popular Stateside?
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Posted: 2003-11-19 16:09:22
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Mobiles are as popular in the US. It's just that with so many different telecommunications standards, phone makers have to make different models, so the buying base per model is smaller than the rest of the world with GSM. That's why, like BigFeat, I also purchase my phones sim free from overseas.
Even our GSM bands are different!
And we won't have number portability until next week. I'll be very interested to see what that does to the offering of new phones, since if AT&T have a phone I want, I could switch to them and still keep my cell phone number.
(By the way BigFeat, Cingular does have the Treo 600.)
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Posted: 2003-11-19 16:44:29
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Mobile phones are very popular. At least that is the perception among consumers... However, the carriers condition the consumers to accept the below average rate plans, phones, and service as top notch and worldwide standard. I would bet if one surveyed 100 US residents from across the nation and asked them if they know free incoming calls, rollover minutes, non-deposit account start-ups, mobile phone # transfer from carrier to carrier, mobile phone transfer from carrier to carrier, and picture messaging has been offered in other countries for years and to-date only 10% of them would probably admit to awareness of this. The mobile phone turnover rate is huge. It’s so big that they have programs that let people donate their old mobile phones for recycling and charity.
The reason I think the average American would own more junk piled mobile phones is because they are forced to purchase a new cell phone each time they switch to a different carrier. I have 3 of them that I have stored away in a box somewhere that is still priced over $350 USD each on the market. With that said mobile carriers scare consumers into sticking with their contracts for the fear of having to buy a different phone and obtaining a new number. Moreover, carriers are requiring new contract owners to make a deposit somewhere from $500 - $750 USD. This deposit is refundable no sooner then 3 months AFTER the contract has expired. The puzzling fact is that they are doing this regardless of the consumer’s credit rating. Some consumers have complained about not being asked a deposit by one carrier where another one would. It was explained to me that it was a move most carriers were pulling in order to force consumers to stick to the agreed length of the contract because they know they would want to retrieve their deposit eventually. However, if one breaks the contract early a portion of the deposit is automatically used to cover the contract withdrawal fee. Sneaky stuff ain’t this??? For the first time in US history mobile carriers will be allowed to keep their same mobile numbers if they switch carriers. That’s going to prevent carriers from pressuring consumers to stick to their contracts. However, consumers will still need to purchase a new phone. T-Mo is the only carrier in the states that offer decent GSM coverage and service. The other carriers are lagging very far behind. I can only think of 2 carriers that exclusively carry sim cards on all their phones. Most of the others like AT&T have some phones still on the non-GSM networks. And others like Nextel have sim cards that are provisioned to only work on their mobile phones.
With that said consumers are forced to prioritize their needs in a cell phone based on the carrier’s conditions and service. The average consumer’s (age 16-35) incentive to buying a cell phone usually lies with rate plan, coverage, and then phone style. With phone style being at the bottom of the list it doesn’t mean there is a lack of interest in that department. It’s more that they are forced to evaluate the other factors first. For example, If one wants to get a sidekick (that happens to only be offered by T-Mo) one has to be willing to accept T-Mo’s plans, contract conditions, coverage area, etc…However, if one can not fulfill or meet the requirements then its impossible to obtain that particular phone. The common attitude is ‘settle for what ever phone (no matter how expensive they are) a carrier offers if they can provide good service and good rate plans’. Until that changes then everyone gets kept in the dark. There’s too much money spent on mobile phones each year in the states to not think that people don’t know they are being ripped off.
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Posted: 2003-11-19 17:29:56
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BigFeat, you said you got your phone in the US? Can I ask where? I want to pay a good price for it. No one then 600 I want to try to get it for.
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Posted: 2003-11-19 23:45:41
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The p900 will be sold in the US....
... Once it's no longer made in France.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 00:27:14
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Would eBay be a good place to get a p900? i see some on there for 500 US dollars.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 00:31:34
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No, you will never get a P900 and never see you money again. Some Romanian will be 500 dollars richer though.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 00:34:20
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be careful, very careful. I flush-out about 2 scams a week (i.e. inform eBay support who then close-down the ebay listing). Hackers can take over accounts of honest traders and use the good history to flog 10, 20 & 50 P900s at about UKP300 each. They expect people to approach them for single purchases so that say okay buy 3 and pay by Western Union etc. On one occassion I even found an escrow web site set-up by these fraudsters to make people feel secure. Never buy P900s or P800s that are too cheap - it will be a fraud. P900s I thought were about $800 retail - $500 does seem too cheap. Post the eBay item and will have a look at it.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 00:40:57
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