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Here's the low-down on the J2ME Platform (.pdf format)

http://java.sun.com/j2me/j2me-ds.pdf

As you'll see, there's quite a lot to it!

At the end of the day, the T610's operating system is designed to run a phone, not a games system, which is why java implementation is not very good but improves as the firmware is improved. So why are other phones better at it?

Well, I'd say that it's quite possible that have tried to cram too much into too little space. Having Java AND Mophun facilities in a small operating system means that there has to be a trade-off somewhere. This might explain why a lot of java games that are J2ME compliant and therefore should work on a T610 don't work. It's almost as if the operating system is just not sophisticated enough to handle anything but the most basic java functions. Don't quote me on this, but personally I suspect that the T610 uses a 'cut-down' version of J2ME, or at least a modified version of it which again would be less efficient.

I'm probably wrong, but surely if the T610 had full J2ME capabilities, more games would work on it? It can't all be down to screen size alone.
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Posted: 2003-12-29 12:18:43
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first SE wasn't going to add Java to the T610, but they probably added it because most phones have it now, so they probably didn't really bother about the fact that it's slow.
actually, some nice looking games work smoothly on my Z600, but it's a shame that those cool nokia games don't work on it :s
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Posted: 2003-12-29 17:08:49
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So, when I check my firmware I get R1L013. Is this old or new? What is the newest one? Where can get that, and is Java fixed in that one?
Best regards,
sql
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Posted: 2003-12-29 23:48:11
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You've got the old firmware. R4Cxxx is the latest, you need to take your phone back to the shop to get it flashed with the new firmware. The shop may or may not have to send it to an SE service center, depends whether or not they have the kit.

You should see quite an improvement in Java performance, but don't expect miracles
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Posted: 2003-12-30 15:53:19
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Is there any chances that I can download the newest firmware on internet? Is there any site for that??

Best regards,
sql
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Posted: 2004-01-06 20:51:56
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For the T610? In a word, no!

There are a number of would-be hackers who insist that you can buy the correct cable and download the firmware from certain (presumably) dodgy sites but it really isn't advisable.

SE do not release the firmware updates for T610 online because they insist that, for whatever reasons, you must update firmware at a registered SE center. Being sensible about it, this is probably because the T610 does not have the facility for easy (online) upgrades (unlike the P800/900) and as such it is rather dodgy to try and do it yourself.

I don't mean any disrepect to anyone here but I really can't understand people's fascination with upgrading their phones themselves? If you take the phone to a shop, sure, you might get charged a small amount for it but if the shop messes everything up, and your phone dies, you get a brand new phone!

If you upgrade it yourself and it goes wrong, you've had it! It's all your own fault, and you end up having to buy yourself a new phone! For god's sake people, let a third party upgrade your phone! Then if it goes wrong, it's their fault, not yours

[ This Message was edited by: Cycovision on 2004-01-06 20:31 ]
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Posted: 2004-01-06 21:23:50
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On 2003-12-29 10:21:36, Super G wrote:
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On 2003-12-29 10:04:28, speedooh wrote:
Afterall the java in z1010 is much bether then java in t610 so that proves that is not only mophun phones.



Other phones (e.g. T310) do not support Java. Only mophun.
Z1010 is not available. Java on T610 runs very poorly, so even if Z1010 supports Java, I assume it's not quite a challenge to make it work much better.

Still, engineers are not stupid, so I really can't believe they can make this Java support so bad without any fishy thing behind it. And this certainly is to promote Mophun.
Yet, Java apps are far more popular and wide spread than Mophun ones, so have to give in. (not give up Mophun, but make their Java support proper)


z1010 is avilavable.

z1010 released


It does have bether java then t610, Check out this links.

MIDP 2.0 and Other API Support in the Sony Ericsson P900 and Z1010

Product Feature: The Sony Ericsson Z1010 - A 3G phone supporting MIDP 2.0


Mophun is not listed in the future list for z1010 even the java is on the list. So you can just imagine what is doing with mophun.

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Earlier known as T610 Owner.

[ This Message was edited by: speedooh on 2004-01-06 20:52 ]
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Posted: 2004-01-06 21:49:16
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I live in Macedonia. We do not have Official SE Dealer or Service. I update my firmware in one of many GSM Services. They have the hardware for flashing the phone. I did that once because I want my Vodafone icons off my phone and now everything is fine exept that they upload the old firmware. They are good with phones but bad with latest updates. That's why I'm looking for the last firmpare on internet

Best regards,
sql
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Posted: 2004-01-07 19:02:59
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