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I donīt think my phone is telling my sexual preferences..
I agree with you both, the idea is quite a good one, and Iīm not that reluctant as I seem to be. Nevertheless the mention of a 'cooperation' of official authorities with private companies attracts my attention; and Iīd prefer at first a nationwide database where stolen inventory can be queried by officials AND THEN a 'reverse' database where inventory is registered with before getting lost..
So long as this service isnīt available in my country I should stop making a fuss
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[ This Message was edited by: fetzi on 2004-11-24 09:37 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-24 10:36:43
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On 2004-11-24 10:27:05, frontman wrote:
Lol... is there something you'd like to talk about Qwerty? ;o)
Hey, you're the one winking at me!
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Posted: 2004-11-24 12:24:23
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ooops - oh, I see.. didnīt want to disturb you.. ROFL
leave this thread I must
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Posted: 2004-11-24 12:30:48
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There is no reason to suggest your details will be used to spam you, its in conjunction with the police and the government, fer gossake. So what if they have an advert or two, ALL sites do. Its a good thing, it will help people recover their rightful property they have worked hard for. Its not a case of "big brother" at all, its a case of people making an effort to cut down on crime, and the only way they can do that is to be vigilant.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 12:31:50
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On 2004-11-24 10:27:05, frontman wrote:
Lol... is there something you'd like to talk about Qwerty? ;o)
Hey, you're the one winking at me!
Lol... sorry... its a facial tick...
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Posted: 2004-11-24 13:24:36
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But - why not the other way? Create a nationwide database where queries can be made on already stolen inventory? For what reason in advance? My Phone gets lost, I report it to police, they store my IMEI in the base - here we go, any suspicious findings - check it with the base. But still thereīs no need to feed in advance. And I bet a fortune there will be lots of people very eager to collect data. Conjunction with mobile producers? Fine, no further need for market research! The numbers of phones and their owners, even the history of each person and their phones is present - but not only for phones..
But Iīm looking forward to the interesting issues coming up when your gems are sold and then get lost or you have to unregister or correct every time you change, drop, give or whatsoever your belongings..
Still thinking that it is kind of useful - but Iīd prefer it "the other way" (which would be an effort for the industry too - theyīd see which phones attract thieves most
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Posted: 2004-11-24 13:38:18
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Hmm im not too sure to be honest, that would require massive co-ordination between a myriad of companies, bear in mind you dont buy your phone from the manufacturer, you buy it from your service provider, or even a third-party store (such as the link or CPW) who would all have to co-ordinate with each other and the police. And why should they put in that effort? To be honest, the phone isnt being stolen from them, its being stolen from you. Its your responsibility. Also, they know people are going to sell the phones privately, for cash, as they are entitled to do. Are you going to spend time contacting them to tell them you have sold the phone, and give them the new owners details? I doubt it. You would, most likely, not get through, get put on hold, have to provide identification for both you and the buyer, and generally phaff about a lot. Its a lot simpler for the purchaser to simply register any devices they have purchased on a website, or even over the phone. You have to admit, it does not take long. 2 minutes to set up your account, and its very straightforward and simple to use, i think they have done a good job with it.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 14:33:48
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I guess we are speaking of different matters. My Idea was - if there has to be a database, ONLY stolen devices, inventories etc. should be there in. So if a cop 'finds' a phone he can compare IMEIs; I didnīt mean ANY sold subject should be saved.
And if a stolen or lost object is not in this 'stolen/lost database', the one who lost it is perhaps not interested in getting back.
Then there wonīt be need for changing owners in future either.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 14:43:22
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Ok, but who writes down the serial numbers etc before its stolen? I certainly didnt, before this thread appeared. Its quick and easy just to register stuff, i know what your saying, but why take the risk?
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Posted: 2004-11-24 14:51:22
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Ok problem sorted!
Having just logged in to my account on MEND, I have seen that you can actually select an item in your list of registered products and individually mark it as "lost" or "stolen". By doing this I presume it marks it or flags it up on some list or whatever, I dunno... but the concept of having a database of lost or stolen items is actually doubled up into this service from MEND.
So I take it we have a win/win situation here?
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Posted: 2004-11-24 15:17:58
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