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@Axxxr Members voting on whether other members have the right to vote is not very democratic. There is another word for that system. May be another enlightened member can help. . .
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Posted: 2004-12-05 18:50:48
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I think it's a very bad idea. How do you see this happen?
Somebody posts an utterly ridiculous topic nd it cannot be removed until the 'elections' have been held and the votes counted?
Who's going to do the counting? What if 'we' the People of the Democratic republic of Esato don't like the end result? New votes?
I think it's not even manageable and I personally think the reason there are moderators to moderate the board is enough reason not to need member votes on every thread.
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Posted: 2004-12-05 18:51:22
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I think this is a jolly good idea actually. Of course it shouldn't be used for every decision the moderators take, that is simply unpractical and unfair to the moderatores. If there is an issue, which is difficult for the moderators to decide upon, or a decision, which a significant number of members disagree with, then I don't see why the members shouldn't have some way of expressing themselves.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2004-12-05 18:03 ]
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Posted: 2004-12-05 18:58:24
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On 2004-12-05 18:50:48, goldenface wrote:
@Axxxr Members voting on whether other members have the right to vote is not very democratic. There is another word for that system. May be another enlightened member can help. . .
I did'nt say that!....I said members should decide if there should be an option to vote!..If the majority says yes then everyone on esato should have an option to vote and make their choice!
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Posted: 2004-12-05 18:58:40
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Goldenface made a very good point. Esato is, sadly, a rather elitist message board. I've been a regular on here for around a year now, but have lately refrained from posting as often as I used to.
It's nothing to do with the people on here, nobody has ever been insulting to me or anything like that but it dismays me the amount of times I see regulars on here quoting the good old 'use the search' crap or literally taking the P**s out of newcomers because thay're new to the world of SE and smartphones. 'Some people shouldn't be allowed near smart phones', or similar, was included in a recent thread regarding a user who asked a simple question about his p910i.
As such, I can well imagine the regulars ganging up on people which is gladly why such decisions are left to the moderators. As I recall, Axxxr, you took a lot of flack yourself when you first started posting your news stories on here, how would you feel if a load of people voted for your posts to be sent to garbage?
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Posted: 2004-12-05 19:05:27
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I think its a terrible idea and totally defeats the point of having moderators.
Also its very easy for one person to say they don't like this or that and for all their "followers" or "mates" to agree and thus make a choice not based on the topic or person in question but based on mateship.
I think the current (and usual method on forums) of moderation is all that is required and the moderators will take note and look closely at any complaints given to them in an unbiased, factual and impartial manner.
certainly the day I stop doing that will be the day I'll be happy for members to compain to laffen about me.
I really don't think this issue is big enough to warrant such a topic anyway is it? or have I missed something? I assume some happening has caused this topic to be raised?
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Posted: 2004-12-05 19:05:52
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when and on
what though???
Everything? Not doable
Decided items? Who gets to decide then?
And why? And where? Do we get to vote if political threads get to stay? Coz it's irrelevant seing as this is still a phones forum. Or we vote on whether or not the 'tips & tricks for T68' is still needed??
I just don;t see the use of it
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Posted: 2004-12-05 19:07:39
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On 2004-12-05 19:05:27, Cycovision wrote:
...it dismays me the amount of times I see regulars on here quoting the good old 'use the search' crap or literally taking the P**s out of newcomers...
I believe the phrase you are looking for is 'nouveau veterans', as far as I can see it isn't the older members who are participating in the behaviour you describe.
@Vlamm
I still assume that it is a mobile phone forum, sometimes.
@masseur
This topic is obviously one, which is dividing people, some favour it, others oppose it. I think the very fact fact that some do favour it shows that perhaps there is something at work on Esato, which some members are not happy with.
Before anyone starts writing letters to Points of View, I am not criticising masseur or any of the other moderators, in fact I think they all do sterling work. There is a difference between saying that the current system is not working and asking for a way, in which members can express their opinions in a focused manner when they feel that a moderator's decision is not in the best interests of Esato. I realise that Easto is not a democracy, but I don't think it is unreasonable or rediculous for members to be allowed to have a voice to express their collective opinion too.
I also realise that this idea is very unlikely to be approved, but I thought I would voice my support for an idea, which I think, rather than providing an opportunity to criticise the moderators or each other, would add something to Esato.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2004-12-05 18:21 ]
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Posted: 2004-12-05 19:11:06
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On 2004-12-05 19:05:27, Cycovision wrote:
As I recall, Axxxr, you took a lot of flack yourself when you first started posting your news stories on here, how would you feel if a load of people voted for your posts to be sent to garbage?
If the majority voted for my posts to be deleted or sent to garbage i would be more than happy with that decision,Because it will be the choice of the majority of esato members.
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Posted: 2004-12-05 19:15:58
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@scotsboyuk
Absolutely, I don't mean to offend anybody and I wasn't suggesting that all Esato users are unfreindly or such like, be they veterans or not.
So let's forget voting systems and such like, just keep it as it is and let Masseur and co. do the hard work???
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Posted: 2004-12-05 19:16:31
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