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On 2004-12-21 11:57:44, Qwerty_uk wrote:
Is this actually on the cards, or is this just a pointless "what if" thread?
For God sakes! How many people do i have to tell this!!! THIS IS A FORUM ARE PEOPLE NOT ALLOWED TO POST TOPICS WHAT THEY WANT! it is a discussion forum, where we discuss things, and we are discussing whether people would accept their usage to be monitored in return for free items.
I think i would, i mean,
are not able to break the Privacy statement, therefore they couldnt do anything that bad! Its just market research, not privacy interruption.
@nickorooster
exactly, thats what i would do! and you are right in saying this is a what if thread, but @qwerty so what if it is!
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Posted: 2004-12-21 12:27:14
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On 2004-12-21 11:47:00, MikLSP wrote:
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Why not? If it doesn't send any personal info & could help make future products better
Many reasons. Main one being companies should pay and utilise market research companies if they want to gather user information and data. Plus I dont trust large corps, their faceless and unaccountable.
I have to pay for my phone, software and accessories so theres no way SE are getting MY info and data for free! They probably do already anyway.
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Posted: 2004-12-21 12:27:48
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Yes but they would be breaking the law, the data protection act states (i have been learning this in school
) that you can only collect relevant information for a relevant period of time by consent, and that person has the right to know what is being collected and can stop it being collected.
i think it would be fine!
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Posted: 2004-12-21 12:33:44
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@ frontman
Fair enough & I wouldn't want them to get any personal info but simple research into what apps people use & would like in-built is fine if it leads to better products.
I think though that a better way to do this research would simply be with a questionaire!
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Posted: 2004-12-21 12:38:00
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Well exactly. Theres no reason to say a spying method would be most suitable for this kind of research. Dont forget many users of the P series are business users, they would definately not want to share that sort of info.
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Posted: 2004-12-21 12:43:10
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They do use a similar exercise in the UK with Televisions.
Whatever a selected 'audience' watches is transmitted to a HQ which detects what people like to watch and how long for.
I wouldn't really want any phone company really to be able to check anything on my phone. So I would have to say No.
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Posted: 2004-12-21 12:55:02
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On 2004-12-21 05:10:28, foulone wrote:
If se offered you accesories/free air time would you allow them to monitor your phones memory and usage? l.e. an automated message would be sent once a week from your phone to se detailing what programs you have lnstalled and how often you use them...
yes I would -even if they collect my "personal data" - because I don't give a **** what they are doing with the phone number of my grandma or my shopping notes. I'm receiving ads anyway and I'm not paranoid enough (maybe I've not watched enough TV... yes I've seen "1984") to believe that they are using my data for making me will-less or something
There were times when shop owners could watch (and talk to) their clients what they are interested in... now we have the Internet and it's OK if I'm getting logged. If I did illegal things then I would have problems with it, but I do not so it's fine with me.
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Posted: 2004-12-21 13:55:42
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On 2004-12-21 12:27:14, vanquish wrote:
...and you are right in saying this is a what if thread, but @qwerty so what if it is!
Nothing. I was just checking if foulone started the thread because they knew something, or if it was just speculation, that's all. No need for any knickers to become twisted.
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Posted: 2004-12-21 17:32:41
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Like milk said i think it would be just as easy to commision a questionaire or some malarky, i wouldnt want to share my infomation not because of i think mi5 will be remotly intrested in who i phone more to the point is i dont want to share my nan's telephone number, as unlikely as it is if phone spam was to become as popular as computer spam there would be a greater risk, yer, there is a privacy statement but it didnt stop an AOL engineer selling thousands of aol email address to a spam company and i dont suppose it would stop someone working at SE doing the same, next thing u know my nan has been bullied into buying marzipan double glazing, tasty yes but it doesnt stop condinsation very well. If i could submit a report to sony and i cld see what was in tht report and more importantly i had the choice to send it then yes if i cld see no information i didnt want to send then i would help, in the end of the day the p910 wouldnt be the way it is if it was not for market research.
people who use lexmark printers undocumented software that monitors the use of its printers and silently reports back to a Lexmark-owned company website is installed without ur knowledge when drivers are installed, surely this breaks the privacy statement ?? as it is not stated or documented anywhere on purchase??
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Posted: 2004-12-21 17:44:09
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Pure speculation... At first I thought this was an effective way of gathering precise information on usage of 3rd party apps-more useful than download stats... then I remembered what happened with MS windows trying to incorporate everything into the core os and the effect this can have on 3rd party developers.. Im not so sure now..
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Posted: 2004-12-21 17:49:45
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